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Post by Vi-Poi on Apr 30, 2016 2:41:40 GMT
Certain positions and teacher slots have cultural significance and can't be grabbed by just anyone with a pulse and a high enough PL. These are cultural RP bars that must be met before those positions can be taken by others. Namekian caste positions must be held by members of their caste. No Solar Saiyan Empire member, no non-Namekian, as originally specified in the Ranked Positions list. These positions are extra-political, cultural positions. This means that for no reason will any conqueror hold these positions, just like how Julius Caesar didn't become King of the Gauls when he defeated Vercingetorix, and just like how the current US commander in Afghanistan isn't the head of the Taliban. These positions are cultural, which may or may not have a political effect. They can not be replaced through war. They can only be replaced from within. The same goes for the Saiyan, Arcosian, and Earth positions. For instance, if Blue Banner one day conquered Vegeta, Vi-Poi will never be recognized as the Vegetan King by the Saiyan people. There will be a monarch in exile, just like in real life. You have to be part of the culture. This clarification prevents factions and groups from 'Special collecting' and gives more weight to the cultural balance and heritage of the Galaxy.
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Post by Hyoza on Apr 30, 2016 2:45:23 GMT
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Post by Pin on Apr 30, 2016 2:58:37 GMT
For the sake of clarity, what if there were an android like Pin, but for Namek - built by Namekians, raised as a Namekian, looks like a Namekian - would that qualify? For all intents and purposes that android is a part of Namekian culture.
Similarly, could Pin theoretically become a Saiyan monarch?
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Post by Vi-Poi on Apr 30, 2016 3:12:40 GMT
As a lifelong SSE member, yes he could become Saiyan monarch.
And yes, an android built by Namekians, raised as a Namekian etc. could qualify for Namekian positions. It's about belonging to the culture.
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Post by Plato on Apr 30, 2016 3:16:19 GMT
I do have a question. I know this may not be the best spot, but is it possible to make Lord/ Teacher postion.
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Post by Queen Habana on Apr 30, 2016 3:21:09 GMT
Yes, there is in fact a shop item specifically for that!
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Post by Riku on Apr 30, 2016 3:33:28 GMT
Say you were the student of said leader and they disappeared, and nobody had their gi or such and you were offered the position by a mod. Does that seriously not make you eligible?
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Post by Zucceta on Apr 30, 2016 10:10:17 GMT
hey Riku I'd like you to ignore this thread for a bit. for some reason we decided to ignore process.
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Post by Defrosch on Apr 30, 2016 10:16:17 GMT
Vi, while I do understand what you're going for here, I'm going to have to say its unfair considering several circumstances; that being Riku as the Warrior Caste Leader. In character, he has a reason to aim for the position, he was a student of the previous leader, is that truly not enough?
What of Bing being Kami after Scargot? Same situation.
Zexama, a friend of Wyntre was also temporarily given the position of AE 'leadership' (though not 'claimed' mechanically)
What should really be said is; those that are born and raised among these cultures should be given PRIORITY and those thereafter integrated into the culture through other means or via blessings of those people or the prior holder of the position should be seen as SECONDARY, instead of outright being EXCLUDED.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 10:32:37 GMT
The primary reason I have to agree with Defrosch here is due to both the site's races, and how historically, conquering works. There's numerous races here that don't have a "Culture" as far as we know much about them. Majins, Demons, Bio-Androids, Androids, even a lot of the Alien races. Sort of difficult for them to have any kind of authority position.
To be fair, I agree, seeing like... Cell as Kami? Doesn't make much sense. For stuff that's the leader of an empire, I feel like that would be more of a grey area at best. Conquering happens all the time, and there are quite a few current nations that were ruled by descendants of their conquerors for a long time. Heck, that's basically the AE's whole deal.
It's said for a long time that "If your character is NOT one of these races, maybe we can work something out." Granted, Riku's not Namekian. Also granted, having a Saiyan lead is a bit weird, and I understand the reasoning behind not wanting Special Farming. Maybe something could be worked out for exceptional circumstances, but you have to accept that your character fits the role, or you might be kicked out?
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Post by Hyoza on Apr 30, 2016 12:43:57 GMT
The Riku situation has been rectified. By these rules we are discussing he would still be eligible. His removal was a mistake on mine and Vi-poi's part.
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