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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 22:15:56 GMT
Ok so a thought occurred today. What if, and I would rp reasons why I gain this, Komoto gained the power to boost Power Levels (just not to himself) We have so far 4 ways to gain pl boosts, 3 of which involve a person to give to us (which stinks cause, and no offense, one of the people quit, and the other 2 aren't exactly active AND you gotta pay for most of them) while the 4th one requires an open DE and attacking planets protected by the strongest people on the site. Now just saying, this would be an evil boost, and I plan on making side effects for my power. Like with Bing Gan , when he unlocked his transformation because of my power (rp stuff of hypnosis) he was left with a 2nd personality that wanted to kill everything. That's the kind of side effects I have planned. If people ask what rp reasons I would have for learning this ability, here are the following (depends which is more available) 1) after fighting the namekian Super Kami Guru of namek, or demon god alaistair, and absorbing the loser, Komoto gains there ability to boost warriors. (Most likely one I'll do) 2) after seeing Alaistair's boost to Zucar on tv, as well as being personally boosted by Salti, and seeing how salti does it, Komoto learns that by using his Saimin Nno Jutsu, his hypnosis move, he can go within the brain of someone and pull out the strength hidden inside them (unlocking 100% of the brain) So, what do you guys and gals think?
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Post by Kaula on Jun 22, 2015 22:33:24 GMT
First of all - no.
Second of all - You are following the suggestion guide lines all wrong. You don't just instantly make the poll. Don't be surprised if the poll is simply taken down.
Also - You were never boosted by Salti. That was pretty much you guys trying to bend the rules.
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Zucceta
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Post by Zucceta on Jun 22, 2015 22:33:55 GMT
(locked poll. discussions first)
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Jun 23, 2015 0:00:15 GMT
Short Answer: No.
Long Answer: Noooooooooooooo! Seriously though, at this time this suggestion truly only benefits you and your friends. While you may not directly benefit from this power you would still have the freedom to boost whoever you want and determine whatever 'drawbacks' you see fit To go along with the boosts. That's far too much power over the game that anyone should realistically have. Also, what's to stop you from giving someone you don't like the boost only to give them a crippling weakness with it? What's to stop you from giving someone you do like a huge boost with a mostly inconsequential downside? The way this suggestion is devised leaves a lot of room for it to be abused.. The only way I'd say that a power like this should be even considered is if to give someone a boost you'd have to sacrifice some of your power level to do it and there is a set downside to accepting it. Not one you come up with on the spot. That would prevent you from abusing it and it would prevent someone from getting screwed over with an unforeseen downside.
As things stand now I must give a firm no on this suggestion
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 0:42:21 GMT
I can understand that reasoning, though I should point out some things.
1) Alaistair already has this power, and he boosts those that work for him, with some extra stuff I believe. 2) my most likely main way of getting this ability is trying to absorb alaistair or a boost giver, so it will take a long time to fight them in a de 3) I'm someone that lots of people want to kill, with tech no friends to back me up, so it's effects wouldn't be... aware. 4) the drawback is to make people more.... homicidal, and that doesn't mean they would be loyal to me. For example, bingstop alter ego Ping that I created wants to kill everyone, and made it clear he wants me dead too. I'm basically saying loyalty isn't an issue, if people came to me, they would most likely become chaotic Evil 5) the amount of pl I could give would be decided by admins.
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Post by Kaula on Jun 23, 2015 1:22:38 GMT
That's literally no drawback. Just saying.
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Post by Donatsu on Jun 23, 2015 2:21:59 GMT
First off - Hell yes
This site could use some fun stuff like this. Think of it as unlocked potential but for villains, this could make the bad guy to good guy ratio even out a bit.
But I think that it should work as Alaistairs boost does draining Komoto.
P.s cool as it is I won't get it because o them drawbacks.
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Post by Cipher 24 on Jun 23, 2015 2:23:34 GMT
From what I can see, the power boost alistair has seems to come from his faction rather than the character himself. Though to be honest I'm not sure how he got permission to do that anyway.
To be honest, I'm not even sure why Komoto would even want this ability. As you said, nobody really likes Komoto, the only real exception being Bing, and nobody else would trust Komoto to give them a power boost. Plus, from what I've seen with Alistair's boost to Zucar, it's rather minimal at best. I just don't see the point.
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Post by Tania on Jun 23, 2015 2:25:10 GMT
I can understand that reasoning, though I should point out some things. 4) the drawback is to make people more.... homicidal, and that doesn't mean they would be loyal to me. For example, bingstop alter ego Ping that I created wants to kill everyone, and made it clear he wants me dead too. I'm basically saying loyalty isn't an issue, if people came to me, they would most likely become chaotic Evil Yeah, that's not a downside. If what they gain is something that's mechanical and not rp fluff, then what's lost must ALSO be mechanical and not rp fluff. Donatsu seems to have the right idea on this one.
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Post by Toma on Jun 23, 2015 2:31:08 GMT
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Post by Zexama on Jun 23, 2015 2:37:14 GMT
We do not gain techniques from absorbing, you aren't special, Zexama is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 3:59:24 GMT
Going to safely say one reason why Alastair has this power.
Ahem.
HE IS THE THIRD IN COMMAND OF THE SITE AND HAS YET TO ABUSE THIS POWER FOR HIS OWN GAIN OR FOR HIS FRIENDS GAIN WHICH SOME PEOPLE THINK WILL OCCUR IF YOU WHERE ATTAIN THE SAME POWERS!!!!
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Post by President Bao on Jun 23, 2015 3:59:53 GMT
goddammit, lost my reply , quick gist: > I support more support chars > I think komoto should stay as he is though, make a new support char if you want to be such a role > I think allistair didn't pan out how he was desired to due to the nature of his ability > I think people have misunderstood what it means to be a support char Will elaborate when i get a chance but my lunch break has ended.
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Jun 23, 2015 4:31:26 GMT
Ok, so... Explanation of Alaistair's ability first off: 1) I sacrifice 10% of Alaistair's current PL (This amount dilutes the more he spreads it out), so Alaistair's literally weakening himself every time. So long as he is alive and conscious (aka: Not dead, asleep, or knocked unconscious), this boost gives himself and his chosen knight(s) a telepathic connection to each other and Alaistair, like a server for Internet service. Yes, it is meant to identify those that work for him, as that's the purpose of the technique. 2) I've not begun to or plan to abuse these powers. I'll have even more conditions be added on to make sure it can't be abused and, if it is abused in any way, the character will immediately be killed off and removed, no questions asked. 3) If any of those who are marked by Alaistair are killed, half the power bestowed on said person returns to Alaistair, making him permanently weaker than he would be, so there is another threat to this technique. Any more will be making this the hardest technique to use and I'll gladly attempt to fulfill those guidelines. President Bao: The technique's guidelines are there as is, and how they're used. If it's not clear enough, I make it so. Lastly, I don't see reason to see this being done. Sure, you may have seen it done, by the Hypnosis deal wouldn't happen, as it's making the ability do more than it's intended.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 4:43:03 GMT
From what I can see, the power boost alistair has seems to come from his faction rather than the character himself. Though to be honest I'm not sure how he got permission to do that anyway. To be honest, I'm not even sure why Komoto would even want this ability. As you said, nobody really likes Komoto, the only real exception being Bing, and nobody else would trust Komoto to give them a power boost. Plus, from what I've seen with Alistair's boost to Zucar, it's rather minimal at best. I just don't see the point. That's the whole point Cipher. The power boost would be the equivalent to making a deal with the devil I can understand that reasoning, though I should point out some things. 4) the drawback is to make people more.... homicidal, and that doesn't mean they would be loyal to me. For example, bingstop alter ego Ping that I created wants to kill everyone, and made it clear he wants me dead too. I'm basically saying loyalty isn't an issue, if people came to me, they would most likely become chaotic Evil Yeah, that's not a downside. If what they gain is something that's mechanical and not rp fluff, then what's lost must ALSO be mechanical and not rp fluff. Donatsu seems to have the right idea on this one. As I said, I would let the admins decide how this goes. If they believe I should have a draining effect with the power boost, I'll gladly accept that consequence. We do not gain techniques from absorbing, you aren't special, Zexama is. Never said I was going to instantly learn it through absorption without spending technique slots. When I say absorbing it helps me learnit, I still plan on spending a tech slot (or 2 or more) to help me truly achieve this ability. goddammit, lost my reply , quick gist: > I support more support chars > I think komoto should stay as he is though, make a new support char if you want to be such a role > I think allistair didn't pan out how he was desired to due to the nature of his ability > I think people have misunderstood what it means to be a support char Will elaborate when i get a chance but my lunch break has ended. While I understand the idea of giving it to another char, the reason I want Komoto to have it versus a new character is because he has already made a bad name for himself, making it so that only the truly desperate and/or mad would seek him out for power Ok, so... Explanation of Alaistair's ability first off: 1) I sacrifice 10% of Alaistair's current PL (This amount dilutes the more he spreads it out), so Alaistair's literally weakening himself every time. So long as he is alive and conscious (aka: Not dead, asleep, or knocked unconscious), this boost gives himself and his chosen knight(s) a telepathic connection to each other and Alaistair, like a server for Internet service. Yes, it is meant to identify those that work for him, as that's the purpose of the technique. 2) I've not begun to or plan to abuse these powers. I'll have even more conditions be added on to make sure it can't be abused and, if it is abused in any way, the character will immediately be killed off and removed, no questions asked. 3) If any of those who are marked by Alaistair are killed, half the power bestowed on said person returns to Alaistair, making him permanently weaker than he would be, so there is another threat to this technique. Any more will be making this the hardest technique to use and I'll gladly attempt to fulfill those guidelines. President Bao: The technique's guidelines are there as is, and how they're used. If it's not clear enough, I make it so. Lastly, I don't see reason to see this being done. Sure, you may have seen it done, by the Hypnosis deal wouldn't happen, as it's making the ability do more than it's intended. As I said, one of the plausible rp reasons. Another thing I was considering on doing was this: since Majin buu had the ability to do any tech he saw, I could say that Komoto's strong magical power and seeing both Salti and Alaistair doing this ability allowed him to create a new version of their unlocking hidden potential technique, however, I would keep the rules to this Pl booster like yours, where I sacrifice my own Pl if I have too.
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