Defending city attacks.

Perhaps this should be officially stated, mainly so that we don't run into this fuckup ever again.

Komoto, while I did say it would be cool story wise for the Red Eclipse to target Porsalynne to get at Cipher, how you did it was all you. There were so many other, more subtle, methods to accomplish this. Instead you went for the biggest, noisiest method possible.

As for Hitora, while I am surprised Kaula and Walker aren't going after him, he may not be an issue much longer.

Howdy Folks.
To clarify;
(and lets not turn this into something negative, we're all here to have fun )

Whenever something of a large enough scale or importance occurs, it becomes a Saga. A Saga thread is open in nature, and involves the possibility of death (the victor of the saga essentially decides the outcome, such as for example reducing a city to rubble, stealing a dragonball, killing a participant, etc.) alongside some nicely beefed up grade bonuses.

Closed non-saga threads may lead in to saga threads depending on their nature. When this happens, the original thread is closed(and it's participants graded) and the official Saga tagged thread is made directly where the last took off.

For example, the Z fighters sleeping at kame house, listening for news of cell and waiting it out, might have been a closed thread. When the androids arrived however, the closed thread is ended, and a new one where piccolo challenges 17 (a saga thread) begins.

You can't be 'forced' into a saga thread, you may choose not to engage/pursue your goal and instead escape(only when it starts mind you, if you stick around or enter later, it then becomes your opponents choice whether they let you escape or not - even if your opponent is far weaker), however this allows your opponent to pursue their goals in much the same way as them 'winning' would.
For instance, if piccolo didn't fight the androids, they may have blown up kame house/ been allowed to find goku.
Alternatively, when gero fled after his defeat(due to his android racial ability), the Z fighters were allowed to chase him and ultimately find his lab, because that was their goal.

Ideally, people act in the best interest of good story, and have a bit of give and take from *both* sides. We are after all playing a game where creating a cool story with our characters is the goal.
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In this case for example, Komoto might escape and not engage when people step in. However, the bombings would give Avalons defenders a reason to begin searching for the perpetrators(the damage from them deemed minimal, since they are technically the 'winners' and so decide the severity of the outcome), leading to possible further plot down the road if desired.

From what I read here, it almost sounds more like people are trying to force OOC punishments on Komoto, rather than align this plot in an interesting way and come to a fun solution.

It's also clear for example that the Z Fighters support the tyrannical, mass-murdering president-kidnapping regime of the Blue Banner Army, since they very happily work alongside them without conflict.
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One thing however which has caught my eye:
This pertains to Reikiko, but is important for everyone to be aware of so I am mentioning it here:
You are not allowed to use alternate accounts in a manner which directly benefits your alt. That would include for example evil reikiko coming to help tea-party reikiko defend avalon. Avalon is not associated with evil-rei as far as I am aware, therefore evil reikiko's presence and benefactory nature is questionable at best.

Minions and guards are characters you can buy to help your 'main', alternate accounts are meant to maintain separation, (especially in saga matters, and when it comes to master/monarch benefits).

Very true, just teasing

(though you can do more than you think, raw power alone doesn't dictate saga development and a victory doesn't always mean defeating your opponent in combat - sometimes it's about getting a friend to safety, or laying down your underground resistance, or even just making a cool story in some way - gambits are always fun)

I think we need something more clear than just having something turned into a Saga and then everything else being rather basic. Shouldn't we have some sort of prerequisite or clearer definition in place to automatically set topics as Faction DE, Saga(essentially Open DE) and then a normal, closed thread? This subject seems to be making a lot of people angry.

We literally have no problems with you guys being villains, even though Komoto swears left right up and down in OOC that you all are NOT villains in the Cbox all the time, the problem simply was a lack of communication, a lack of understanding a few things, and some of us being pissed that our faction home was being attacked. That's simply it. There's no if/ands/or/buts about it, you know?

_{But next time, understand maybe you shouldn't use West Capitol as the city? Maybe use an unnamed smaller one..? But then again, you know, trial and error. Learn from mistakes. That kind of thing. I'm still looking forward to RPing with you all in the future, especially your character, Kouda.}