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Post by Zod on Oct 22, 2015 18:40:25 GMT
*keeps the solutions to all your problems tucked in his back pocket and simply whistles while cleaning his finger tips*
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Zucceta
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Post by Zucceta on Oct 22, 2015 20:44:13 GMT
Zod, the majority of your suggestions go against the main principle of this site: simplicity.
The change will definitely be up to a community vote, as all large systemic changes. The site isn't quite as democratic as it once was, to allow for faster, more efficient implementation of necessary mechanics, but community input and say on large matters is still a focus of the site.
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Post by Bing Gan on Oct 22, 2015 21:53:13 GMT
After giving it some thought, I've changed my mind again (very indecisive, aren't I?)
Both systems have their merits, but Tiering edges out the merits that an altered PL system has (in my mind (for now) anyways). I think we should devise a concrete system for tiers before everyone jumps the gun and disagrees, as it seems most are doing.
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Post by Etoru on Oct 22, 2015 21:54:28 GMT
I DISAGREE!!!!
@masterbingmanpersonthingpotato
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Post by Tomoroko on Oct 22, 2015 22:14:01 GMT
If it comes to a community vote then I will definitely respect whatever outcome. If it helps though, I do have some ideas I can share with you Rev, they are by no means like... complete... formulated ideas, but maybe something you guys could feed off of and use if it benefits either system, or helps create a hybrid system.
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Post by Tania on Oct 22, 2015 22:15:05 GMT
I'm in pain, but I'd figure I'd stop in and remind folks that we are still a democratic site. We, as staff, discuss initial concepts and vote on them in the staff board in order to speed them up. Before we switched over to this, base concepts were taking far too long for even a small chunk of the community to weigh in on. That's why the community as a whole came together and voted to do things this way. You need to remember that that's just for INITIAL changes. Members are still more than welcome to start discussions that could lead to polls on changes they would like to see or new things to be implemented. What we handle is mostly the base stuff like dragonballs and how afterlife training worked. Until we had the change, we had several discussions on both that never got anywhere.
So, the advertisements are still correct. Feel free to post discussions for things you want to see changed/added/removed. Nobody's stopping you there and your voices still count.
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Zod
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Post by Zod on Oct 23, 2015 1:13:24 GMT
*pokes Tania on the cheek* tee hee ^-^
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Post by Tania on Oct 23, 2015 1:34:08 GMT
*pokes Tania on the cheek* tee hee ^-^ Good sir, this is a board dedicated to a discussion. Did you have anything to add?
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Post by Kizuki on Oct 23, 2015 15:35:03 GMT
I've been actually wondering, in terms of the grading, how many threads can graders confirm are just straight up non-combat threads? I think it'd be interesting to see just how many gains are being given out in threads that consist of 90-100% dialogue alone? I also feel this is part of the problem and could help with a solution.
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Post by Zucceta on Oct 24, 2015 0:28:38 GMT
I feel that rewarding gains for filler/less-action oriented threads is necessary, Kizuki. While, yes, it doesn't ICly make a bunch of sense that gains are given for non-combat scenarios they are often more important than fighting threads, which should occur as a culmination of conflict developed through less combat-oriented threads.
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Post by Kizuki on Oct 24, 2015 17:11:01 GMT
I feel that rewarding gains for filler/less-action oriented threads is necessary, Kizuki. While, yes, it doesn't ICly make a bunch of sense that gains are given for non-combat scenarios they are often more important than fighting threads, which should occur as a culmination of conflict developed through less combat-oriented threads. Understood. I guess it just feel like there's so many of those vs actual combat based posts that perhaps there should be some reduced gains.
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Zod
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Post by Zod on Oct 26, 2015 19:06:42 GMT
*pokes Tania on the cheek* tee hee ^-^ Good sir, this is a board dedicated to a discussion. Did you have anything to add? why yes I do Tania!!! but every time I attempt I get hit with items like
so I'm not really looking forward to adding anything, even if it helps to solve all the current issues.
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Post by Queen Habana on Oct 26, 2015 19:29:04 GMT
Depending on how it is implemented I might be down for a Tier system, obviously we really need to actually have something to display before anyone should really be focused on being 'for' or 'against' the idea, while perhaps the concept may have been implemented poorly before that does not mean it will always be done wrong, PL systems such as our current one have existed for a while, many earlier efforts were quite poorly done, that does not mean the PL system itself is BAD but rather it needed refining in order to become functional. Good sir, this is a board dedicated to a discussion. Did you have anything to add? why yes I do Tania!!! but every time I attempt I get hit with items like
so I'm not really looking forward to adding anything, even if it helps to solve all the current issues. If you do not intend to add to the current discussion please stop posting in this thread. That includes responding to this message unless your next message includes actual on topic discussion.
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Post by Tania on Oct 26, 2015 19:39:34 GMT
Good sir, this is a board dedicated to a discussion. Did you have anything to add? why yes I do Tania!!! but every time I attempt I get hit with items like
so I'm not really looking forward to adding anything, even if it helps to solve all the current issues. The problem is that you appear far more interested in changing the game from the ground up rather than actually joining it. Even since before you created your character, you've tried to get us to implement far more complicated systems than any member that posted is really comfortable with. Frankly. it feels like you're trying to make Souls something it's not. Your character was approved over 3 weeks ago and yet you have yet to post a BP, so it's as if you don't want to fully join the community and actually try things out unless you see these giant changes that so far, it appears only you want to see. WoDS simply isn't that kind of game. And Habana is correct. If you don't actually want to put any suggestions into the thread itself, comments like that really only serve to derail the current discussion.
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Post by Tomoroko on Nov 2, 2015 21:14:34 GMT
Back to the topic, I made a separate suggestions thread on ideas for a more combined Tier/PL system. What I posted is just a rough draft but it's a system I've successfully used in the past and think it would work if that's the way things are to be taken. I left out milestones and stuff because I dont really get how that would affect every individual character~ wodsouls.freeforums.net/thread/5261/middle-ground-ideas-tier-pl
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