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Post by Conan on Nov 15, 2015 13:57:52 GMT
-Slow claps Treylech's post-
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Post by Treylech on Nov 15, 2015 18:59:40 GMT
-Slow claps Treylech's post- This literally made me laugh out loud. xD
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Post by Koldar Frost on Dec 2, 2015 23:06:56 GMT
There's a matter of, also, how this overhaul on the tiers of power is going to affect the combat system as a whole. Sure, the KP system is preventing the technique spamming, but each level of power a player ascends says this player has this strength but it doesn't apply to how it will apply to someone of equal power, severely less power, or severely higher power (or in this case, Tiers). It's going to end up being a matter that will, in the process of the Tier system being discussed here, will require the combat system receiving another haul to pull.
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Post by Pipa on Dec 16, 2015 8:41:20 GMT
I think what would be better is just to kick solos out the door completely. Give a monthly pl bonus to everyone to account for behind the scenes solo training, which is granted to those who respond in the activity check. I'd go as far as to say remove grav trains and just grant the owners of those chambers a boost to that monthly stipend. Give those with less pl a bigger bonus. Imagine the amount of good plot that could be developed if solo abuse was simply removed from the meta entirely. Instead of that 30k word fanfic about doing pushups with a flashback to that one time they kissed a girl they could commit that writing effort to more relevant things.
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Post by Vi-Poi on Dec 16, 2015 8:46:42 GMT
I think what would be better is just to kick solos out the door completely. Give a monthly pl bonus to everyone to account for behind the scenes solo training, which is granted to those who respond in the activity check. I'd go as far as to say remove grav trains and just grant the owners of those chambers a boost to that monthly stipend. Give those with less pl a bigger bonus. Imagine the amount of good plot that could be developed if solo abuse was simply removed from the meta entirely. This, a million times. I love that idea. We could even alot the bonuses on a graduated and progressive manner, so that people with lower PLs meeting the activity check got higher bonuses than people with higher PLs, and the people with the highest wouldn't get the bonus or would get something very small. I had a thought where training and solos would only give you a boost to your modifiers and perhaps unlocking some interesting features here and there. We have way too much emphasis on solos as it stands.
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Post by Bing Gan on Dec 16, 2015 8:50:53 GMT
....Huh, I kinda like that idea Pipa! I'm thinking perhaps completely removing solos shouldn't be a thing, but maybe keep them as a modifier enhancer as Vipoi once suggested. Also, the Afterlife kinda needs solos, seeing as not many people are dead at the same time.
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Post by Pipa on Dec 16, 2015 9:06:41 GMT
....Huh, I kinda like that idea Pipa ! I'm thinking perhaps completely removing solos shouldn't be a thing, but maybe keep them as a modifier enhancer as Vipoi once suggested. Also, the Afterlife kinda needs solos, seeing as not many people are dead at the same time. Ah yea the afterlife would definitely need an exemption. The modified enhancement could be good, I think Nicholas said something about a 10k solo per month or something. I think that might be a good outlet, and then having that bonus apply to the monthly gain.
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Post by Pipa on Dec 16, 2015 9:12:10 GMT
Another way that might be useful is to use those 10k limit solo posts to reassess quality rating assessments (provided they are still a thing). Idk if that would be feasible until automation is a thing.
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Post by Brisk on Dec 16, 2015 20:56:44 GMT
What if we used the "once per month PL boost" idea and modified the boost by the quality of one solo you write per month for it? If you wrote a really good monthly solo, you would get double the monthly boost, but spamming out long ass solos wouldn't be possible, and it would be a quality, not quantity thing. That way one could still enjoy the fun of classic dbz training, while not being able to use solos "competitively" nor have them be the majority of their threads. The one monthly solo would be required to get the boost, so people who didn't do solos in the first place wouldn't have any difference, and people who did would simply have one very high quality solo to write rather than many grindy solos.
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Post by Letrune on Dec 17, 2015 7:21:00 GMT
I like the ideas... And I like to move my character interactions with each other and nonames into solos to move an arc. So, yeah, I agree nonetheless.
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Post by Otto on Dec 17, 2015 7:30:16 GMT
What if we used the "once per month PL boost" idea and modified the boost by the quality of one solo you write per month for it? If you wrote a really good monthly solo, you would get double the monthly boost, but spamming out long ass solos wouldn't be possible, and it would be a quality, not quantity thing. That way one could still enjoy the fun of classic dbz training, while not being able to use solos "competitively" nor have them be the majority of their threads. The one monthly solo would be required to get the boost, so people who didn't do solos in the first place wouldn't have any difference, and people who did would simply have one very high quality solo to write rather than many grindy solos. Aye that is more or less what I mean. As far as the number that the solo could boost you it would probably be hard to tell until we had a model for how much pl a monthly grab might look like. But yea I am with you. erm I am (was) Pipa by the way
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