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Post by Zucceta on May 9, 2016 1:14:47 GMT
Dragon Ball Super has recently demonstrated that Super Saiyan is still the best form for saiyans, capable of reaching heights above those as SSj2 and SSj3 with the right training.
With the recent wish to potentially incorporate some features and mechanics from Super, it is my desire to change MSSj3 to "Chou" Super Saiyan, the official term for the full-powered super saiyan seen in Super. It would be visibly the same as SSj1 and would replace the rest of the saiyan transformations, leading in to the potential god mechanics that are being discussed and debated right now.
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Post by Celmaru Waterfield on May 9, 2016 1:19:37 GMT
It makes sense to me, personally. There's never been a truly "mastered" form of SSJ3, as its immense strain always drained the user. The "Perfected" (let's say) version of SSJ1 would make more sense in my mind, simply because of both SSJ2 and SSJ3 are simply increased Ki outputs of SSJ1. Abandoning the riskier forms for one that's always been more efficient is something I'd personally take any day.
+1 towards the notion of "Chou" Super Saiyan. :3
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Post by Kizuki on May 9, 2016 2:05:22 GMT
I'm in for the change, but ... The name not so much.
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Post by Zucceta on May 9, 2016 2:08:52 GMT
I'd rather use the terminology referenced in the show (apparently) than something like Perfect or Ultimate. Regardless it'd ICly be referenced as just Super Saiyan, and Chou's what we've got from Super.
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Post by Majin Luu on May 9, 2016 2:11:56 GMT
While I haven't been active here anywhere near as long as most, I fully support this notion. I never really thought of SSJ2 or SSJ3 as separate forms from SSJ. They were just different stages of the same form. Fully mastering SSJ, or 'Chou' Super Saiyan as you have named it, just seems like the natural progression. You've trained in these different stages of the form, and eventually you master them to such a level that maintaining their power is just as easy as the initial stage, and so the drastic energy exertion shown in SSJ2 and SSJ3(Via the lightening, larger and more violent aura, longer hair in the case of SSJ3) wouldn't be a case anymore, leaving the appearance the same as the standard Super Saiyan form. Your body has been honed and conditioned over time to manage the high power of the higher stages of the form, and so it is more efficient and resilient in maintaining that power without wasting so much energy. So the lightening, more violent aura, and longer hair aren't needed to release all that energy you were wasting in outputting so much power before.
+1 towards this notion from me as well.
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Post by Plato on May 9, 2016 2:19:06 GMT
I want ssj 4 instead (Jk jk). No i mean i agree, but i mean you could also due mabye like a branch thing so it goes to Mastered Ssj2 to either Ssj for more power or Chou Super Saiyan which is later but is slighty weaker but way easier to use and control. That just my idea.
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Post by Zucceta on May 9, 2016 2:34:55 GMT
I want ssj 4 instead (Jk jk). No i mean i agree, but i mean you could also due mabye like a branch thing so it goes to Mastered Ssj2 to either Ssj for more power or Chou Super Saiyan which is later but is slighty weaker but way easier to use and control. That just my idea. I'd rather not INCREASE the number of forms saiyans get, y'know?
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Post by Plato on May 9, 2016 2:37:58 GMT
yah i understand they already got, A ton of forms. Golden ape Fssj (other forms forgot.) But yah, I'm for Chou, (I'm not a saiyan myself so it does not really mastter to me as of now.) So +1 for me.
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Post by Mayze on May 9, 2016 2:39:31 GMT
yes plz.
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Post by Articho Reville on May 9, 2016 3:38:52 GMT
Sounds like a good idea to me. If it's the perfected form of Super Saiyan, why not just call it Perfect Super Saiyan or Perfect Saiyan?
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Post by Ninjin Nedrag on May 9, 2016 3:45:19 GMT
I personaly like both names but if i had to pick I would pick with a Perfect style with the person being allowed to pick which of the three stages they want to have for their perfected SSJ look.
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Post by Zucceta on May 9, 2016 3:46:29 GMT
Perfect is the same terminology used for Bio-androids, and I'd rather stay away from it if possible--which it is, given that its possible to source Chou Super Saiyan.
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Post by Bing Gan on May 9, 2016 5:39:57 GMT
GET THIS MAN A MEDAL. HE'S SAYING WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING!
I'd say it could perhaps be interesting to perhaps allow a choice between "Mastered" SSJ3 and "Chou" SSJ1. It could just be a flavor-only difference, but I'd like to see the original final form for Saiyans stick around (at least until someone ICly reaches it)
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Post by Defrosch on May 9, 2016 7:40:22 GMT
MAXIMUM OVERSAIYAN
Hehehe, naw, thats silly, why not rename it Saiyan Spirit, and have it up to the player what it looks like out of SSJ1, 2 or 3 or any of those with minor aesthetic differences?
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Post by Zucceta on May 9, 2016 7:51:40 GMT
MAXIMUM OVERSAIYAN Hehehe, naw, thats silly, why not rename it Saiyan Spirit, and have it up to the player what it looks like out of SSJ1, 2 or 3 or any of those with minor aesthetic differences? I'd rather the transformation line be consistent, and 1:1 with current canon, which involves SSj2 and 3 being inferior.
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