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Post by Zucceta on Jan 24, 2016 23:42:36 GMT
So, as most of you know, when you absorb somebody to achieve your two primary transformations as a bio-android (Semi-Perfect and Perfect Forms) you gain 33% of the absorbee's PL.
This is a deliberate reward for the risk the bio-android has taken, as the absorption can only be achieved against another player character in a death-enabled thread.
However, at the point of the Perfect Form transformation (which requires 275k PL (which can be achieved DURING the absorption if you'd hit that PL from your target), the gains are potentially ridiculous for what is, ostensibly, a free boost for succeeding in a DE thread. Let's say you, at 240k, decide the time is right to achieve Perfect Form - it is before other races gain their equivalent transformations, and you can achieve it via the PL boost. If you were to absorb somebody around that mark, you'd gain 33% of 240k. Just under 80,000 PL.
I propose a max cap for the 33% absorb - You get 33% of the absorbee's PL to a maximum of 50,000 PL (which is still a huge free boost and a reward for taking the more risky pathway).
As a semi-perfect form you could still prey upon the weak to gain your Perfect Form - say you're already at the requirement and absorb a player under 100,000 PL, you'd still achieve the Perfect Form and also gain a free PL boost.
Thoughts on this?
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Post by Vi-Poi on Jan 24, 2016 23:45:12 GMT
I've never liked the absorb route, and a cap of some kind seems smart, as what if someone absorbed someone else who had way more energy than them? They might explode.
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Post by Zucceta on Jan 24, 2016 23:53:00 GMT
I feel the absorb route is important and that, especially now with the alternative non-absorb route (which has a competitive 33x at 250k) the absorb route does still need a strong boon in its base PL boost, however I think (at the level of Perfect form) these boosts could be way too high.
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Post by Bing Gan on Jan 25, 2016 0:25:43 GMT
Yeah, I'd imagine that hypothetical scenario is not an impossibility. I'd be alright with seeing a cap to PL gains possible from an absorb (although I have to admit, seeing a weak Bio go from something insane like 10k to 180k from a single absorb would be an amazing sight to see)
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Post by Shino on Jan 25, 2016 2:16:54 GMT
I have always felt that Bio-Androids get insanely powerful quick. But having the boost stop up to 50,000 seems a bit drastic to me. I think for every absorb, the percentage should go down. And maybe if need be, we can take away the Bio-Metabolise at a 40,000 or 50,000 PL.
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Post by Zucceta on Jan 25, 2016 2:32:22 GMT
I have always felt that Bio-Androids get insanely powerful quick. But having the boost stop up to 50,000 seems a bit drastic to me. I think for every absorb, the percentage should go down. And maybe if need be, we can take away the Bio-Metabolise at a 40,000 or 50,000 PL. The bio-metabolise is taken away once you reach your first tiered transformation (semi-perfect or chrysalis)
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Post by Kaula on Jan 25, 2016 3:02:17 GMT
As I have always said, if someone like Reikiko or Vi were absorbed by a bio android, the B-A would get 120,000 PL just about. Which is, indeed, redonk.
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Post by Zuni on Jan 25, 2016 8:21:51 GMT
50k seems fair to me. Even at low levels, where you're stacking every conceivable bonus, that's a nice chunk of words to essentially 'skip'.
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Post by Otto on Jan 25, 2016 8:27:01 GMT
I'm not even sure if it should be that high. I mean zenkai takes about the same amount of risk to pull off. That isn't to say I don't think it should be better than zenkai, because it is a BA's thing, but still.
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Post by Zuni on Jan 25, 2016 9:01:07 GMT
You can get Zenkai throughout your career - unless it has changed or I'm totally remembering wrong, you get the PL for an absorb as a bio-android twice.
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Post by Zyajin on Jan 25, 2016 14:27:40 GMT
Plus, how many Bio-Androids grab Saiyans as one of their starter components? Absorb combined with the possibility of Zenkai activating would make for one helluva power boost. So, I'm in favour of a cap on the Absorb gains.
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