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Post by Core Stold on Apr 30, 2016 3:41:36 GMT
Kaula... first, this was like... 6 months ago... and yes, i've made some errors, but i am sure as hell not trying to make myself look like a victim right now, but you're constantly saying that i insult everybody, that i disrespect other mods when i'm clearly not doing any of that.
Everytime you can, you just try to push me down, like right now, you're literally trying to make me look like i'm the one that should feel bad for giving to Vi-Poi, an administrator, picture of you being rude to me, because everytime you come on the Cbox and see me, you post something to bash me... and i'd like to poing out that you're literally bashing Vi-Poi for something he judged might be something to work on... i'm certainly not the one to bash on mods right now
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Post by Zerori on Apr 30, 2016 3:47:03 GMT
It was noted in the past that you told Etoru to 'fuck off' however, when Rev asked him to give you information about your character that needed to be changed. That is disrespect and if I remember correctly, was part of the reason you were given a recent warning?
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Apr 30, 2016 3:47:21 GMT
I would like to point out some things. A: I do not assault Kaula just because i'm ''Mad'' at her or anything, and neither am i disrespectful to her or to any mods. B:I do not ''Want'' for Kaula to be in trouble, i'm just tired of her constantly being aggressive towards me whenever we are both in the Cbox, as i shown a couple of evident to Vi-Poi with sscreenshots You've got a history of disrespect. While Kaula isn't necessarily a clean slate she's been actively trying to better herself in recent times. To say this is a one sided affair is completely unfair and to claim yourself as an innocent victim is just foolish. The insult given is so minor that this comes across as nothing but vindictive. Edit: People have also gotten nothing but a slap on the wrist for saying way worse.
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Post by Kaula on Apr 30, 2016 3:47:33 GMT
Stop trying to play victim just because I voice jokes in the cbox. Newsflash, you aren't special. I do those to everyone. And when people ask me to not do it, guess what. I stop. Like Tania had asked me to recently.
How is it my fault that my jokes trigger you? It's like saying you can't control your own emotions so I have to get in trouble because you can't take a joke. Geezus.
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Post by Core Stold on Apr 30, 2016 3:51:28 GMT
Nicolas, i'd like to point out that i've been trying to get better myself, i've got into a lot less trouble since i'm back, even Kaula at a point congratulated me, and at that time, i almost felt like i was done with all of that, but it looks like i screwed up again, but like before, i'm still trying to be nice to everyone... that's why Kaula constant bashes affects me...
And Kaula, i see that you are not familiar with something, if you keep saying mean 'jokes' to someone over and over each time you speak to him, he'll eventually see you as a bad person and get annoyed by you, which is what is happening tight now. Yes, yes is it your fault that your 'jokes' triggers me because you always make then mean towards me and are genereally the only thing you say to me, if we had that kind of relationship of joking to each other, i wouldn't mind at all
Edit: Also, you haven't spoke about you bashing Vi-Poi, that's still a very much a thing
Edit 2: Zeroru, i never, and i say NEVER, asked Etoru to 'fuck off', i even asked Zucc and him to send me a list of things that were bad with my history so i should get to it... never got it
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Apr 30, 2016 3:59:25 GMT
You were given a 30% warning for being disrespectful on the 18th and were banned for 5 days. Less than a week after coming back you're looking to stir the pot by trying to rile Kaula up over a very minor offense. How exactly does that display you trying to be the better person? If you really want to have people change their opinions you've got to make yourself better. Crying foul over the tiniest of slights isn't the way to do that.
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Post by Core Stold on Apr 30, 2016 4:02:14 GMT
Okay Nicolas, 1: It was way after 1 week after my return ( I returned on February 24) 2: It was suposed to be 20%, but Zucceta gave it an aditional 10% (It's on the post, he said it, not me ) 3: I am trying to be a better person, that's why i took this case to Vi-Poi and Peter instead of flaming in the Cbox like i would have previously done 4: This is not the ''tinier of slight'' this is Kaula, a moderator, which have been in multiple case in Warning thread as well, harassing me and lacking of maturity in the Cbox
All i asked Vi-Poi was to do something about it, he told me that it could be posted for a warning so i relied on him
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Apr 30, 2016 4:08:02 GMT
Okay Nicolas, 1: It was way after 1 week after my return ( I returned on February 24) 2: It was suposed to be 20%, but Zucceta gave it an aditional 10% 3: I am trying to be a better person, that's why i took this case to Vi-Poi and Peter instead of flaming in the Cbox like i would have previously done 4: This is not the ''tinier of slight'' this is Kaula, a moderator, which have been in multiple case in Warning thread as well, harassing me and lacking of maturity in the Cbox 1. You were banned on the 18th and came back on the 23rd. This was posted on the 29th that is 6 days. Aka less than a week. 2. The extra 10% was due to your long well documented history of disrespect. 3. This would be the route to go ideally but as I said calling someone a tool is a tiny infraction. It wasn't a slur or a curse or anything. What this looks like to me is you trying to get Kaula banned because you were/are salty about your own recent ban. 4. As I said, Kaula has been mostly bettering herself and hasn't had a warn or a discussion on behavior in like 6+ months. You don't have that ground to stand on since you were literally given a ban and came back from said ban less than a week ago.
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Post by Kaula on Apr 30, 2016 4:12:43 GMT
I'd like to note I heavily censored myself to simply "tool". The comment was originally a lot more harsh but I made it more PG because I was almost certain this would happen if I didn't.
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Post by Zerori on Apr 30, 2016 4:23:18 GMT
Alright, Core. I wanted to make certain that your claim was true and on the accusation of telling Etoru to 'fuck off' - you are correct that didn't happen. I apologize for that error. However, I must inform you that reading this discussion about your characters' requested retcon - you argued with a staff member repeatedly. Accusing them of being disrespectful when quite clearly you were incorrect in the assessment of how science was integrated in this sites' canon.
You stated that you weren't here to 'learn science' but to simply have fun.
For be it for me to take away someones' fun.
However, when you joined you agreed that you would adhered to certain rules that were created to keep site up to date with current lore. By arguing that purpose, you've made it increasingly difficult for staff to work with you on the problems with your character. You say that a list hasn't been given to you but reading the discussion, many elements were brought up that you were asked to fix.
I assume, based on the timeline that you fixed those errors but that is not my point.
My point is that while you have tried to be respectful, you have also made it quite apparent that you will fight for the lore you have designed illogically and as staff - we don't have to accept that.
It's our job NOT to accept that.
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Post by Etoru on Apr 30, 2016 4:28:06 GMT
Uh, to add onto this. Core, not that you ever lashed out at me, but I have seen numerous occasions in the chat box where you were kind of disrespectful with moderators. On top of that, I don't really think Kaula takes 'every chance she has' to make fun of you. If she did, I'm certain we'd see a lot more warnings being given out. And if she did, name a few examples please.
And no, not trying to sound rude or disrespectful in anyway at all. I'm here as a moderator, not Kaula's friend right now. So if you do have any counter arguments or anything you'd like to add, I'm all ears.(or eyes)
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Post by Kaula on Apr 30, 2016 4:44:19 GMT
Alright, Core. I wanted to make certain that your claim was true and on the accusation of telling Etoru to 'fuck off' - you are correct that didn't happen. in PMs. It happened in the cbox. I, however, searched my Gyazo history for the logs but I can't seem to find it. Oh well.
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Post by Core Stold on Apr 30, 2016 5:00:54 GMT
Etoru, she does take every chances, she just make it just respectful enought not to get probvlesm with it.
Kaula, i never told Etoru to fuck off ever, and i mean it EVER, it never did.
I'd just like to have like, one person, who sees thing from my point of view, when there is a mod constantly bashing you in the Cbox, and Etoru is literally lying there as i was never disrespectful to him, i was once rude to moderator and i got a warnning about it, and that even would be arguable since Zucceta had no proof when he banned me, and nbow there is 3-4 mods telling me what i've done bad in a thread that is suposed to talk about Kaula and HER bashing on me that, to quote Caesar on that one, was indeed agressive and a lot more than once.
Okay i've done some bad things, but do not try to put more on me than i actually did, everything i did, i payed for it, there is nothing more, no ''insult to mods'' that you guys seems to want to put on me for some reason, since to all of you i was always respectful since i came back as Core, so please, i would just want Kaula to stop being so scarcastic on everything i says whenever she's around, i'm just tired of people trying to trigger me for things that i'm trying to put being me, yet constantly reminded of
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Post by Zerori on Apr 30, 2016 5:14:34 GMT
Core, we can't give her a warn because she dislikes you. That would mean that a LOT of people Rev dislikes-?
Would be gone.
I'll tell Kaula to stop being sarcastic in staff chat and I'll ask her to just go chill somewhere. But no. She's not getting a warning for a silly comment like this.
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Post by Core Stold on Apr 30, 2016 5:18:32 GMT
I am not asking her to have a warning, i just want her to leave me alone, and also thanks for asking her so i can move on with this headache all this drama is giving me... i really appreciate. At first, i though she'd just get a message to stop, but it was Vi-Poi who suggested to post it here, and i wasn't really against the idea.
And to all mods, whoever it is, who feel that i insulted her and never got a warning from it, give me a proof, a screenshot or anything reliable, and i'll personally send you an excuse, a true one that i mean, because i really do want to put everything bad i could have ever done to you guys behind me
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