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Post by Nostalgic Ayumu on Apr 24, 2016 15:37:10 GMT
So i was randomly performing my daily dose of banter in the chat, saying whatever comes up in me and i was wondering... "Could there be techniques you perform with another person for special techniques?"
So my question is... Could this even work? Would this even be a balanced concept of... Lets use a basic example
Mr Apple and Mr Pear are fighting a person, Apple has the technique "Father and Son Kamehameha wave" Which allows him and his friend, Mr pear to both charge up their wave attack and fire it at the same time towards a opponent.
Mr apple and pear both have 30k pl and the tech is a second tier 66%. Would this take both of their PL's and use half of the original source and have the cost spread out?
KP : 2, So apple and pear both pay 1 kp, they now perform their ray of 33% of apple's 30k and 33% of pear's 30k. Doing 20k damage while spending both of their techniques.
I hope i am clearer or if other people have ideas, i am just wondering to myself as usual.
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Post by Zerori on Apr 24, 2016 15:43:40 GMT
Alrighty, so thanks for puttin'this up. I needed an example lol
As far as I know how combining techniques works right now - the whole PL is put into a combined effort.
Person A has a PL of 30,000 and fires an N1 for 33% (at 10,000 damage)and Person B has the exact same - 30,000 PL, and N1 for 10,000 damage.
When they combine, they both have to use their KP for their techs. So Person and Person B would be using full KP expenditure of 1/3.
This might work as a special ability but both of them would need to have learned the special.
To clarify, this technique would reduce the KP cost for both characters by only 1, is that right?
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Post by Nostalgic Ayumu on Apr 24, 2016 15:46:20 GMT
Yeah, this would litterally be just a simple "Tier 1 technique" that is forcibly learned by both. If possible, wouldn't it be possible to reward the work put into such endeavors and possibly even give a bonus effect for such combined moves?
Because from what i took from your post it seems that "Normal" Techniques already do this thing, yet how do we make this "Special" i now wonder... Is there something we could to make this happen and still not be broken as all fuck or just redundant~
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Post by Kay-El on Apr 24, 2016 15:46:55 GMT
Hi!
So, while I think this is an interesting concept, I'm curious how it's different from two people both using n1's at the same time since that leads to both doing 33% of their own pl in damage in a combined attack. Combined attacks are already a thing, this is just two people who (I imagine) both have the same tech using it together in the same way of each using the n1? If that's the case, should 'teamwork' give some kind of bonus to make it different from how the rules are now? Would that be fair/balanced? If only one person has the tech I don't think the other person would be able to use it with them...
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Post by Kaito on Apr 24, 2016 15:47:43 GMT
Alrighty, so thanks for puttin'this up. I needed an example lol As far as I know how combining techniques works right now - the whole PL is put into a combined effort. Person A has a PL of 30,000 and fires an N1 for 33% (at 10,000 damage)and Person B has the exact same - 30,000 PL, and N1 for 10,000 damage. When they combine, they both have to use their KP for their techs. So Person and Person B would be using full KP expenditure of 1/3. This might work as a special ability but both of them would need to have learned the special. To clarify, this technique would reduce the KP cost for both characters by only 1, is that right? So... the combined technique is at 66%, right?
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Post by Zerori on Apr 24, 2016 15:50:04 GMT
I think it'd be a balancing issue if we allowed 'bonus effects' to be accepted in this scenario. Personally, I think this is already OP in that KP is reduced at all. An opponent being attacked by this would have over 6 KP of damage (assuming this is able to be used with MP3 attacks) and would have no viable way to avoid or respond properly. Mean while, these two over here having used this 'special' have 1 KP to follow up with. Edit: @kaito, that would be correct. kay-El, I would agree. Only one person having the tech and allowing the other to use it without it being a special would be OP.
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Post by Nostalgic Ayumu on Apr 24, 2016 15:53:03 GMT
Oh no, i imagined it being limited to specificly KP 2 for that reason as you dont "Reduce" the power but split the power between two people and at that point fire it off together.
You have your.. *Thinks of a example quickly*
Flame thrower V2 - 66% PL Unison FlameThrower V2 - 33% of two people, half the cost for both. (both need it)
That was what i imagined atleast, which would make me think "Why not make it a fun little thing for people if they go this far to set this up in threads"?
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Post by Kay-El on Apr 24, 2016 16:02:51 GMT
It could be a special kind of variant? Teamwork variants?
I'm just not sure what's stopping anyone right now from saying 'hey. let's each get this same tech' and then just using it together as n1's or up2's and combining their attacks for flavor.
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Post by Brisk on Apr 24, 2016 20:25:58 GMT
I thought two people using the same tech could already merge, like a father son kamehameha ect. "Attacks can also be combined to defeat an opponent - Gohan's 300,000 Kamehameha + Goku's 200,000 Kamehameha + Vegeta's 25,000 Ki Blast overpowered Cell's 400,000 Solar Kamehameha, for instance, at the end of the Cell saga." wodsouls.freeforums.net/post/11/thread
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Apr 24, 2016 20:42:00 GMT
Firing at the same target in a turn has the same effect. Merging techniques like father son kamehameha should just be flavor IMHO
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