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Post by Zucceta on Mar 18, 2015 16:11:43 GMT
So the times up on applications for the fruit! The list of applicants can be found below: wodsouls.freeforums.net/thread/2059/seed-applicationsUnfortunately, I can't see a way of having a really fair vote, as most of the staff team are at least affiliated with the organisations aiming for the tree. So we're just going to have to discuss and it might come down to a vote! I'm going to start by ruling out those I don't think have given a strong enough argument for the Seed: Gurin Ringo (individual) - his 'argument' is just his character history, and 'I want it'. ICly he may be able to obtain the seeds from hell, but I don't think his cause is valid. Wyntre (Planet Trade Organisation) - 'I don't want anyone else to have it.' Need I say more?
Next will be individuals. I am personally of the opinion that individuals should not be considered for the seed unless their argument is really, really strong. So, then, my 'prominent' individuals: Alastair - The demon could have a good reason to own the seed in the first place, and his character and cause would definitely fit the mantra of the Tree of Might. He seeks to ensure peace... no matter what the cost, and his owning of the Seed could both prevent unrest if others got their hands on it, and if he truly needed to he could attempt to use it to rapidly escalate in power, in his eyes to 'protect' for the greater good. Bao - More included in my 'list' due to the additional requirements and stipulations that President Bao's owning of the seeds would impose on the villains wanting to use the seeds. However, I would want villains to be able to gain knowledge of the seeds more easily than needing the excuse of walking into Bao's office and rifling through his desk. I think the other individual applications, while commendable, are not quite strong enough to battle against the intended use for 'organisations'. So: The Blue Banner Army ('Leader'/Administrator: Vi-Poi) - A sizable number of characters could benefit from the use of the Tree of Might, and the reasoning behind their acquisition of the tree is solid and in line with Vi-Poi's character and the Blue Banner Army's secondary objective. However, they exist in a more neutral grey area as opposed to the out-right villainy and malice the usage of the Seed is intended for. I still believe they have a pretty good reason for the seed. The Saiyan Traditionalists ('Founders': Zucceta, Orache, Pipa, Zasho) - Not gonna say much due to bias, but this group would use the Tree of Might once they knew it's exact purpose, for their own personal gain. They desire pathways to strength in any form, and don't shiver at the consequence. |
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Post by Vi-Poi on Mar 18, 2015 17:02:32 GMT
If we're looking at a pure villain exercise, Alastair or the Traditionalists look best. I like Alastair's motive of peace at all costs, and I like the power at all costs of the Saiyans. Kind of split there.
Bao would be an interesting pick, because it'd become a free-for-all.
BBA might do well, but members might be Saga-weary after launching our own yesterday. Also, we're going to be having votes in BBA on whether or not to use it, on what planet to use it, etc, so I can't say what the definite outcome would be should BBA get the Seed.
As Zucceta said, BBA is grey. We have members on the good alignment and the evil alignment and everywhere in between. Something like ToM would be interesting because it could create rifts, but it could also lead to hard feelings. The democratic nature of BBA could alleviate that somewhat, and it's worked well so far.
But I'm not sure if BBA has the best claim. If BBA gets the seed, it might very well be locked up in a Science Corps lab somewhere depending on the way BBA votes. Could lead to interesting jail-breaks, I suppose.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 18, 2015 18:37:10 GMT
Bao is the most fair choice, but does SWG have time to RP?
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Post by Nai-Ran on Mar 18, 2015 19:19:31 GMT
Personally, I think Alastair seems like the most likely candidate to receive the tree for the reasons that you've already stated, Zucc. I also think he has great Saga villain potential, and something like the ToM might help push that along assuming he decides to use it. Bao comes in second for me if only for that amazing story. XD
However, I agree with Pipa that him finding the time to RP might be a bit difficult. We'd also need to figure out how people would find out about it with him.
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Post by Zucceta on Mar 18, 2015 19:30:40 GMT
Personally, I think Alastair seems like the most likely candidate to receive the tree for the reasons that you've already stated, Zucc. I also think he has great Saga villain potential, and something like the ToM might help push that along assuming he decides to use it. You're right, but I'm wary of giving it to anyone who won't actively use it within a reasonable amount of time in gaining the seed, and his use is individual rather than organisation-based (which was my design intent). |
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Post by Reikiko on Mar 18, 2015 19:34:23 GMT
hmm~ I'd say Alastair for the same reasons mentioned above, and the BBA as a possible candidate, just because I want to see the ic drama of what happens with robo terrorist boy gets his hands on a seed =P
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Mar 19, 2015 5:06:56 GMT
I'm not saying anything because I'm Alaistair (as I have pointed out in my signature and vice versa on the Alaistair account).
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Post by President Bao on Mar 20, 2015 17:15:25 GMT
Indeed finding RP time is a real challenge for me, especially since as soon as things quieten down a little people start digging around for old suggestions threads to revive or new ideas to add XD (doesn't help that work has been hammering me, busy times).
With Bao, something I would add is, if he did get it, plan was if no one took it from him after a little while... he'd plant it himself, on earth, because he's a dope. Earth would be brought to the brink of destruction(if not actually being destroyed) and many factions could then become immediately aware of the fruit.
I agree that Alistair has an excellent justification for possessing the seed, considering he is a shinjin. It would potentially tie in to his whole 'deal with the devil' aspect too as another thing to offer.
However I must admit of all the candidates I think the saiyans would be the ones to put it to the best use. The others just don't seem like they have an inclination of actually planting it... and I mean, the whole reason we have it is so someone will plant it XD
BBA are our new saga poster boys, but they just don't seem 'the type' to be honest.
Ideally, I like to think that the original possessor of the seed would simply be a courier (thus why I threw bao's hat in to the draw), gives a little more narrative to the seeds introduction, and perhaps even extra justifications for how people come to learn of it.
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Post by Zucceta on Mar 29, 2015 13:01:40 GMT
Okay, well I'm going to put my 'official' vote to the saiyan traditionalists. At this point, it's just me and Pipa, but I believe I'm soon to get a bunch of newer, lower-level members which could also benefit highly from the fruit.
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Post by Hyoza on Mar 29, 2015 13:37:05 GMT
I'll vote in for the Saiyans, tbh. They have the mindset that makes the most sense regarding actual use of the seed.
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Post by Koramund on Mar 29, 2015 14:07:55 GMT
I refuse to vote because of Bias, but I would also like to say that Zucceta should not be able to vote for his faction.
That feels unfair when you can just vote for yourself, but Pieter did not vote for himself or anyone else because he was one of the people being voted for. It just does not feel right, which is also why I refuse to vote, being part of the BBA (even if I am dead).
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Post by Zucceta on Mar 29, 2015 14:57:24 GMT
If nobody part of a faction, or person applying for this, voted, we'd have maybe 2 or 3 votes.
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Post by Vi-Poi on Mar 29, 2015 15:22:16 GMT
I really like both ST and Alastair options, and I'm really tormented (pun intended  ) by the decision. After further review of the applications and the character lore, I'm going to eliminate BBA from the running and stagger my voting. These are my two favorite, and they're very very close. - ST -- It's most 'echoes of Turles', especially with their disregard for a planet. - Alastair -- Great opportunity for blackmail roleplay, as well as Kami-Devil conflict which I really want to see. I have in my mind ST only slightly ahead, because I feel like they would more instantly use it. But I'd be happy with either outcome. |
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Post by President Bao on Mar 30, 2015 3:17:02 GMT
The reason for votes is so that you can expression your opinion, and others can do the same, and we find out where everything sits and what the majority wants.
Refraining from the vote is a misplaced gesture as it simply creates inaccurate polls, your opinion is just as valid as anyone else', indeed even if it's just 'I think I should get it'. The real thing is to be honest with yourself and answer the given question truthfully.
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Post by President Bao on Mar 30, 2015 3:23:21 GMT
(my own opinion is Saiyan Traditionalist make a great candidate, Allistair should be the one who tips them off to the seeds existence and value, and Bao is the one who holds the seed Alternatively, Allistair tips off all interested parties(I'm guessing BBA excluded given the above comment) and the seed goes to whoever pilfers it first. If whoever gets the seed doesn't use it in a timely manner, Allistair whisks it away and gives it to someone who will.) |
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) by the decision. After further review of the applications and the character lore, I'm going to eliminate BBA from the running and stagger my voting. These are my two favorite, and they're very very close.
