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Post by Ais on May 26, 2017 11:05:49 GMT
Species Name: Shinjin
Home Planet: Kaishin
Starting Planet: Upper Worlds
Starting Power: 400 - 800
Appearance: Shinjin vary in appearance based on whether they were born from the regular fruit of the Kaiju tree or the golden fruit. Those born from normal fruit look more like North Kai or South Kai. They can be of almost any height, sometimes short and fat or tall and thin. They have pointed ears as well as bug-like antennae and wings. Their skin can come in a variety of colors and they have catfish-esque whiskers and typically lack noses. Those born from the golden fruit are more humanlike in appearance, their only distinguishing features being their pointy ears, white hair, and skin that can come in many colors.
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Background: On the planet of Kaishin, there are many massive trees. These trees are known as Kaiju, and every so often, they sprout magical apple-like fruit that give rise to the Shinjin. Most of these fruits give birth to the whiskered, bug-like variety of this race. Among these Shinjin are where the North, South, East, and West Kaio are chosen. On rare occasions, these trees produce golden fruit. These give rise to the Shinjin who are among those chosen to be Kaioshin. Shinjin are divine beings with lifespans that can reach 75,000 years in the case of those born from normal fruit. Those born from golden fruit have lifespans that reach into the millions of years.
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Name Pun Theme(s): [Don't know if Shinjin follow any set name puns. Some Kai seem to have name puns based off of concepts and ideas (Zen) or they have name puns based on their job (Chronoa). Suggestions on this point would be appreciated.]
Unique Characteristics: Divine Longevity - Shinjin born from normal Kaiju fruits live to be around 75,000 years old. Those born from the golden fruits can have lifespans in the millions of years.
Kai Kai - Shinjin have a teleporting ability that allows them to travel from the lower worlds to the upper worlds. This technique takes an out-of-game month to recharge and can only be used to transport yourself.
God Ki - Cannot be sensed by the "Sense Ki" technique. However, other Shinjin can still sense you.
Transformations: Unleash Power - The Shinjin gets serious, tapping into their inner divine power. This gives a x2 multiplier to PL. All Shinjin start with this transformation.
Divine Will - Further training allows the Shinjin to unlock the rest of their divine power. This gives a x6 to the Shinjin's PL and requires 70,000 PL to unlock.
Kaio - The Shinjin gains access to power that was once only reserved for the Kaio who watch over the galaxy. This transformation is permanent and gives a x15 to PL. However, it takes 150,000 PL to unlock.
Grand Kaio - The legendary power of the Grand Kaio is yours. This permanent transformation gives you a x25 to your PL and takes a massive 250,000 PL to unlock.
Kaioshin - The Shinjin becomes a being of great power comparable to the overseers of creation. This transformation is permanent and provides an incredible x42 to your PL! However, it takes 400,000 PL to unlock.
Grand Kaioshin - The pinnacle of Shinjin power. The Grand Kaioshin leads the gods of creation in a given universe. Their power is legendary, rivaling some of the mightiest in the universe! This transformation is permanent and gives a mighty x48 to PL, but requires a staggering 460,000 PL to unlock.
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Post by Kallabash on May 26, 2017 11:42:33 GMT
I really like this idea, but Kais should be able to start the mystic power when they are Grand Kai!
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Post by Ais on May 26, 2017 12:42:24 GMT
That is... kinda powerful. xD Not gonna lie. Still, following canon, the Elder Kai was only able to grant the Mystic form because he fused with a witch that had magical powers. So that's kinda a trait exclusive to him.
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Post by Collan Vixen on May 26, 2017 16:00:56 GMT
While I would love for my favorite race to be part of the site...100% sure staff won't allow these guys to be playable. If they won't let people play as Demons that are flavored as one, then I think there wouldn't even be any argument about it being a race.
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Post by Katherine on May 26, 2017 17:25:24 GMT
Yeah, this has been proposed on multiple occasions. Always ends up getting rejected.
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Post by Cipher 24 on May 26, 2017 17:34:33 GMT
I don't know how the staff will react to this, but this doesn't look so bad to me. I think the only issue I have is that after their first transformation, they're pretty powerful modifier wise throughout. Most races tend to have at least one spot where they lull a little.
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Post by Kallabash on May 26, 2017 17:49:46 GMT
I don't know how the staff will react to this, but this doesn't look so bad to me. I think the only issue I have is that after their first transformation, they're pretty powerful modifier wise throughout. Most races tend to have at least one spot where they lull a little. eeeexcept for droids. because droids are droids!
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Post by Etoru on May 26, 2017 17:54:53 GMT
For Ki sense, you should also make it to where divine characters could sense Shinjin's as well. For example, Kami.
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Post by Cipher 24 on May 26, 2017 17:55:08 GMT
eeeexcept for droids. because droids are droids! Let's not get into that arguement again. I was just informed this was using the multipliers from Alien Type A. I withdraw my statement.
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Post by Tobias on May 26, 2017 18:03:37 GMT
Since Shin Jin also are known as creators of the universe, I think they should be able to start off with magic materialization for free, flavored as something different maybe since I don't think they are magic. Of course they could just use one of their own three slots, so if people don't think this is a good idea, then that is fine too. I just would find it odd if a Shin Jin doesn't get it in the beginning, if say the person wanted to spend their three slots elsewhere.
Maybe if you add this third UC, perhaps a weakness is in order? I don't know what would be a good one though.
Nevermind the above. I realize that three positive UCs, as you have already, is enough. A Shin could just start with Magic Mat with their own slots, and if not just don't mention that they can't do it IC yet until they actually get the tech.
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Post by Majin Kaza on May 26, 2017 22:14:05 GMT
While I absolutely love the idea of playing as a Kai race, although nerfed when compared to canon, I can see why it's rejected on a constant basis. The Kais are just, y'know, TOO divine. They're basically gods, in a way, which are just- wayyyy out of our reach.
A shame, really, as I love the lore behind the Kais and how they work :/ I'd have LOVED to play one sometime, and the UCs you're using don't look too shabby!
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Post by Bing Gan on May 26, 2017 23:30:55 GMT
I think the issue with Shinjin is that they aren't... Divine enough when in the context of the Alien templates. I think they need their own set up, which means the staff would probably need to design them. This is a good effort, but instead of feeling overpowered like the Shinjin usually do, these don't feel strong enough.
I'd like to try and develop a version of Shinjin myself, but until then this is a very close and decently balanced version of what an Alien A Shinjin could be.
also as a side note, Shinjin here technically only have Two UC's. Long Life doesn't count as a UC, as evidenced by Androids, Namekians, and Arcosians.
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Post by Ais on May 27, 2017 0:50:29 GMT
Well, I tried. xD While developing this submission, I did feel like I wasn't making them powerful enough. Still, good to hear that I at least did a decent job with balance. Had a fun time doing this too and talking about it.
I do hope we get to see Shinjin eventually. (bing do eeeeet lol) They're super cool. Thanks for all the notes, guys.
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