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Post by Zucceta on Feb 21, 2015 15:40:15 GMT
So. It is my understanding the Dragon Balls have been brought forth into the world by Scargot's great birthing pit.
How, then, should these orbs be managed?
There are two aspects to this:
1) The knowing, and finding, of the balls
2) Potency and limits of the wishes.
Forgive me if some of this has been discussed or suggested before. I was either absent, or have forgot, and we probably need more input from more individuals anyway.
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Daiki Iranos
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Post by Daiki Iranos on Feb 21, 2015 15:44:02 GMT
I have an idea! The dragon ball would be distributed between 7 active person in the forum. Then, its wroted in your item that you own a dragon ball and people could challenge you yo have it. You can give it to them or fight to keep it and even take his dragon ball.
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Post by Zucceta on Feb 21, 2015 15:48:44 GMT
^ You mean the idea that vipoi suggested?
Of course, to be challenged, people would have to know -what- a Dragon Ball is. People wouldn't go around picking fights for an orange stone.
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Post by Vi-Poi on Feb 21, 2015 15:54:38 GMT
We could have people apply to the thread in the form of a post hunting for the Balls, and the seven who are felt to have written the best story gain a single Dragon Ball. The runners-up of the thread will learn that the Dragon Balls do exist, and be able to purchase a Dragon Radar for a decent price.
Then the fighting/alliances can begin.
If someone goes inactive with a Dragon Ball(s) in their possession, after a set length the Dragon Balls are removed and redistributed in some fashion to active players.
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Post by Tao Lung on Feb 21, 2015 16:42:45 GMT
I believe first contact with the dragonballs should be made through a saga. After all this time, there simply ain't no way someone would know a dragonball is anything but, as Zucceta said, an orange stone. No matter what scenarioyou imagine, finding one these days would be mostly pure luck, as dragonball radars no longer exist these days.
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Post by Daiki Iranos on Feb 21, 2015 16:51:09 GMT
There is no way people know about Dragon Balls? Well Daiki saw one in his childhood on Namek, and it was approved.
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Post by Naroka on Feb 21, 2015 17:03:54 GMT
Us, Namekse-Jin, have knowledge over this. Only, to a limited point if one lived on Earth. In my case, Naroka would have knowledge due to his association with Scargot and his apparent trips to and fro Namek itself.
So, this rules out Namekian's to the lack of knowledge.
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Post by Toma on Feb 21, 2015 18:07:57 GMT
Toma knows of the Dragon Balls because Scargot and Milac both told him of their existance. He hasn't personally seen one, but he does know what they look like.
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Post by Zucceta on Feb 21, 2015 18:40:08 GMT
This isn't a personal debate about which characters know about the Balls.
Knowledge is allowed, but you can't just generate it out of thin air.
What we need is for people to suggest methods through which they can be gained.
And, then, what parameters the wishes can be used for. Should they be based on Scargot's power, or something else?
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Post by Naroka on Feb 21, 2015 19:05:14 GMT
I know that much, silly goose. I'm just saying Namek's should have knowledge if they're from the Planet.
As for wishes: Based on Scar's power is my vote. Being as it wouldn't make sense for a weak being to allow grand wishes. EX: Scargot has 50k pl. One can wish up to five people back to life and this sacrifices one wish. If the three wish system is integrated, one uses all three to bring back more than 10+ people.
Power wishes as well, one would get 50% of Scar's PL.
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Post by Koramund on Feb 22, 2015 0:47:53 GMT
Some facts to remember... 1 - Mass revival from Shenron required 2 wishes out of the 3, but could revive entire PLANETS worth of people 2 - Kami and Dende together were never above 3K PL 3 - Shenron was stronger then Kami
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Feb 22, 2015 17:16:57 GMT
@scargot does a worldwide announcement of these dragon balls on some network, keeping the secret precious to the Namekians. Here's the deal, that a lot of people don't seem to consider: Namek's been an existing force for 2 thousand+ years with the planet Earth, at this point becoming trade partners with the very planets its distant friend is connected with!
Story is like this: @scargot undergoes the creation of the balls and proceeds to have replicas and the REAL dragon balls be spread about the world, the Namekian populace spreading word that the power of Namek is being gifted to the Earth... Or have him simply chuck the replicas everywhere via some ball cannon (thousands of meters above the world... Could land anywhere!)
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Post by Pipa on Mar 15, 2015 16:28:18 GMT
Dragon Balls w/ zeni
Why: Using a metric like zeni provides a meaningful distraction to power level grinding in exchange for a big payoff should you manage to collect all of the dragon balls. Being able to purchase a predetermined find also allows the player to maintain their storytelling narrative rather than relying upon the staff for dragon ball generation at random. It also provides a clear method of how to find them and how challenges could be managed..
Concept: Dragon ball finds can be purchased for zeni, you would thread out the find as normal but you can not close the thread for a weeks time.
Now here is the catch. The dragon ball that you find is randomly generated by the staff, 1-7. If it is already owned by another player, a challenge occurs. If the defending player loses the challenge or fails to accept it within a week, they lose their dragon ball to the other player.
Notes: When you purchase a dragon ball that another player has it still goes to the store, not the other player. This is necessary in order to keep it from being cyclic.
If you already own the dragon ball that the staff randomly generates, you lose your money and are out of luck. It basically means that you invested time and effort into finding a ball but didn't find it.
If a dragon ball is rolled for the same dragon ball that a team is currently threading out a find for, that player (and their team) may work to oppose the other group for the same dragon ball.
Dragon balls can not be put in banks, but can be given to other players for safe keeping if you trust them. If the player ICly betrays you that is just the name of the game.
I'd recommend about 500z per ball lotto, as rolling duplicate balls will make it rather expensive even this low. You must finish one find before looking for another.
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Post by Zucceta on Mar 18, 2015 20:07:02 GMT
I enjoy Pipa's suggestion. It probably needs some kinks worked out of it, but it's reasonable and effective.
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Mar 23, 2015 0:51:57 GMT
Agreed. It's making the zeni system invaluable for that reason. Rp-Wise, it even gives reason that there is confusion to where a dragon ball maybe at.
NOW, HERE IS A BIG QUESTION: What if someone has a radar? How much is that going to go for, if it's available in the shop? Considering Alliance banking is a thing, and normally it's groups going after the balls and not just 1 person, I think it'd be fair if it costed in the tens of thousands for it, or one hundred thousand, maximum! A group of 3 people who decide to dedicate themselves to financial training can yield up to 2500 to 5000 zeni, each, if they put in the effort of 500 words to 1000 words. This way, they can have people rolling for searches and still begin investing in the cost of a Dragon Ball Radar.
Now, keep in mind, the most invested person in the creation of the Radar was Bulma, a person who was filthy rich in the first place with Technological prowess! She'd have gone through a bunch of big experiments, to actually figure out that the Dragon Balls have their own unique signature. Being that the dragon balls have fallen out of circulation for thousands of years, until just recently, this rediscovering of the lost tech is gonna take a lot of effort and a lot of money to figure this out. Later on, perhaps it can be possible that the price goes down, should they release the knowledge about the dragon balls and the plans for making the Dragon Ball radar in the first place.
Idea spewing currently. If anyone wants to attempt putting this to actual mechanics to use for the site, do it up! We're talking the Dragon Balls after all!
One note, if I may be honest: I don't believe we have a Guardian of Earth again to create the dragon balls.
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