Hitake Itori
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Post by Hitake Itori on Aug 27, 2014 22:16:20 GMT
Alright, this seems a bit controversial to me.
What is the deal with the full moon and a full moon tech. I am told that a full moon would effect the whole site?
I thought it would only affect the thread you're in. I take it that means your threads, even solo training threads are completely linked to the sites timeline?
If so, it means if we destroy something in a solo thread its destroyed for everyone else. That these changes would have to be noted for people to rp out. And that gets annoying for the staff and forces everyone to keep up with everyone else threads.
IF it does not, than I do not see why having a full moon in one thread should effect another unless it is a direct off shoot thread. Because it seems we CAN have a full moon tech which at this time I have not seen or heard of any restrictions on it. Several people have said it should only effect the thread it is in though.
I'd suggest making a thread about the full moon and their respective techniques and how they effect the site as a whole, and any rules restrictions upon having them. Since there are a good handful of Saiyans already, and it will effect other people. I suggest this as I am on the edge of controlling Ozaru and making a tech to summon a fake moon.
As for the tech I'd suggest it only effects your thread, and perhaps a time limit as part of the restrictions if needed. (as proposed by Hyoza)
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Post by Hyoza on Aug 27, 2014 22:50:11 GMT
The moonlight technique seems to only affect a limited area from what we saw in the show, so I'd imagine, when it is implemented, it could work something like this:
- Power Ball [Special] - The user hurls a sphere of energy into the air, where it becomes fixed - giving off the same type of energy as moonlight, triggering the transformation of any Saiyans or Hybrid Saiyans who have tails (and who look at it) into their Oozaru forms. The effects of the Power Ball last for 10 posts (by the user, not 10 posts within the thread)
NOTE: The Power Ball is far smaller than the moon, and effects a much smaller area, as such only characters within visual range of the sphere can benefit from its energy.
That said, I believe this gives a great deal of power to tail-toting Saiyans/Hybrids, and as such we should limit players' ability to learn the technique, much like the Kienzan/Kikoho. In the series, we saw very few Saiyans who were actually capable of using the technique - in fact, Vegeta is the only one Toriyama ever depicted utilizing it. Not even Raditz and nappa - the only two other remaining Saiyans still loyal to Vegeta, were shown to use the technique. And while absence of proof is not proof of absence - Nappa at least would certainly have had a perfect cause to use it when Goku started smacking him around - precisely the same reason Vegeta busted it out.
This implies to me that either the Saiyan Elite kept the technique a very closely-guarded secret, to give them an advantage over their lower-class mooks. OR, possibly, it required a considerable amount of power to use. Either way, I believe we should consider making the technique initially only learnable by achieving a certain PL and being accepted into the ranks of the Saiyan Elite. Obviously this would mean we can't have it until we go to Planet Vegeta, but I'd imagine that will still be long before anybody unlocks SSJ, obsoleting the Oozaru form.
Just my opinions, of course. I just think this should not be a technique people can just develop on their own, it would require an intricate knowledge of exactly what causes the Oozaru transformation and how to simulate that with ki energy - and Saiyans are hardly a scientific species.
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Hitake Itori
Rising Soul
PL: 13,972; Oozaru (x10): 139,720; Items: One Use Pod; Heavy Weights- 3493 | 34,930;Zeni: 611
Tag: @hiratakefujitora
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Post by Hitake Itori on Aug 27, 2014 22:55:14 GMT
I like the tech idea, and I am not against a power level requirement.
However most races do have a boost up, and yes, even if our boosts are late game, if say I am at 10k pl and you're at 8 and use a form to boost it 5 times, you're now at 40k, 4 times stronger. If it is 1 on 1 the Saiyan is going to lose hands down, with no real way of stopping it without the oozaru form. Granted this might proc the Zenkai if an admin suspects the fight is life threatening.
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Post by President Bao on Aug 28, 2014 3:31:50 GMT
Indeed, full moon is a site-wide effect, you can't just decided you want a full moon today and say it's there.
You could put up a thread in the general section asking if a full moon could appear, and we'd probably put it to a vote (such as what happened already with the saga), but otherwise that's godmodding and cheating. Saiyans have that restriction for a reason, no point if everyone could just say a full moon is there and use it as they please.
For the Power Ball, it indeed intended to act as a localised moon, and indeed is a special technique which must be learned like the other special techniques - from the corresponding 'master' figure.
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Tao Lung
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Post by Tao Lung on Aug 28, 2014 15:09:58 GMT
To make it canon, maybe in the last week of every month, a poll with options of a sequence of about 7 days could be put up to vote. Then, in the next month, the days agreed upon by the majority of the members will be the days were a full moon will be up. That way it remains canon for every single thread a member posts. I think the Power Ball should be a technique passed on by the King of Vegeta. I even made a suggestion for this myself in my " Quests Page" suggestion.
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Post by Lord Tsumuri Takeda on Aug 28, 2014 16:44:12 GMT
I thought I nip this in the bud yesterday The Full Moon has always been a site wide event since the very beginning. The only way a saiyan can be all powerful with his Oozaru is if and when he learns the power ball technique as I believe that technique should only pertain to those in the thread. Saiyans were built to be difficult to use and I recommend that people who are looking for a true challenge play as saiyans. (Secretly building a saiyan char... )
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karanon
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Post by karanon on Aug 28, 2014 17:54:49 GMT
It might be difficult, but we could have a full moon on the site during the week which a full moon is supposed to appear in real life, with a notification some how that lets the site know that there's a full moon active. That would give us all a week to reap the benefits of said transformation, plus it would be closer to real-life where a full moon only comes about only once a month.
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Post by Lord Tsumuri Takeda on Aug 28, 2014 22:18:47 GMT
There's a widget that actually keeps up with that.
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Post by Hyoza on Aug 28, 2014 22:23:53 GMT
Yeah, a lot of DBZ sites use those.
Problem is that our threads aren't real time. Case in point: The thread me, Pieter and Alex have been doing the last few days has only actually covered maybe five minutes of time in-story so far. I think the way we should do it, if we have such a widget, is that it only counts if your thread is made on the day of the full moon.
Or if everyone agrees that it's full moon time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 3:35:16 GMT
Yeah, a lot of DBZ sites use those. Problem is that our threads aren't real time. Case in point: The thread me, Pieter and Alex have been doing the last few days has only actually covered maybe five minutes of time in-story so far. I think the way we should do it, if we have such a widget, is that it only counts if your thread is made on the day of the full moon. Or if everyone agrees that it's full moon time. A way to counter this is to just let everyone know what day the full moon is on and then people can just say when their thread is set. Say if it was August 16 and that person finished a thread they started a week earlier on August 17 their next thread could take place on August 16 as long as it was a realistic enough time frame.
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