Zucceta
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Post by Zucceta on Jan 28, 2016 8:47:05 GMT
As Otto said, that's the point of minions - if two people are equally battling but one fighter has minions to utilise, well, that's sort of the point.
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Nicolas Mclendon
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Jan 28, 2016 8:55:43 GMT
Think about minions this way - they are weaker side-characters to your main character who operate independently. They have their own KP, PL, transformations and techniques. They can be used both in and outside of threads of your main character (such as Zarbon and Dodoria acting on Frieza's behalf). I get the idea. But my mind immediately goes to a scenario where two equally matched fighters square off. One has a handful of 75% minions and the other doesn't. The one with minions could potentiall keep the one without busy all on his own while his minions charge their MP3s and fire them once the other guy is out of KP to defend himself. The 75% minions cost 22.5K. You're thinking of guards Nic. Regardless that's still a lot (It's taken me like 4 multi page threads to get that much.) Minions would be absolutely useless if they didn't have their own move and ki pool.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 22:56:53 GMT
I think demon Namekians should have two branches: the Mazoku caste that emulates the warrior clan and the Poko Priests that emulate the dragon clan. If I recall correctly, Piccolo Daimao himself was a Poko Priest and I believe that the mystic Mazoku are underrepresented. The Mazoku Warriors should get free Great Namekian and be able to learn Special Beam Cannon and Hellzone Grenade (if that isn't too broken). In contrast, the Poko Priests should get the mystic ability and a free 25% PL minion and be able to learn Magically Materialize. I just don't find it sensible that the Mazoku caste should be limited to emulating the warrior caste when in canon it was opposite.
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Post by Helix Crust on Jan 28, 2016 23:36:58 GMT
staff chat spoilers here, but we are working on a limit to how much total % in minions someone could have. Right now 100% and 150% are being tossed around. I would point out that if they were equally matched fighters, if the other had taken pl instead of the zeni to get said 3-4 75% minions... they would be possibly in the range of 100,000 more pl higher than the opponent (really rough estimate). So it isn't quite fair to argue equal footing imo- The guy who did grind for all of those minions had clearly put much more work and effort into the rp. Would enjoy to get a say in this ruling, via vote perhaps.
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Zucceta
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Post by Zucceta on Jan 29, 2016 0:23:10 GMT
staff chat spoilers here, but we are working on a limit to how much total % in minions someone could have. Right now 100% and 150% are being tossed around. I would point out that if they were equally matched fighters, if the other had taken pl instead of the zeni to get said 3-4 75% minions... they would be possibly in the range of 100,000 more pl higher than the opponent (really rough estimate). So it isn't quite fair to argue equal footing imo- The guy who did grind for all of those minions had clearly put much more work and effort into the rp. Would enjoy to get a say in this ruling, via vote perhaps. Perhaps. There will clearly be some limit, though, so the vote options will be more limited. I'd rather just keep it staff to make the implementation faster and because, frankly, some member suggestions are pretty unbalancing, in experience.
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