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Post by Pah'mazhan on Mar 26, 2015 14:15:56 GMT
Hey guys, I was talking to Bao about this and he suggested making a poll to be voted on, so here it is! My muse was absolutely destroyed during my college term, and I was very busy. Because of that, I lost all of my muse for Caesar Dominatus, found here. I severely wanted to stay on this site, so I had to abandon him and create a new character, one that would fit in with this group that my friends are making, (5 or 6 new members are my fault, sorry!) so I'm left at a disadvantage. I worked hard on grinding Zeni with Caesar, and I would like to get my work back by transferring my zeni from Caesar to this new account, Pah'mazhan. Thoughts?
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Post by Wyntre Cold on Mar 27, 2015 6:01:09 GMT
Why wasn't this fine when I asked for Zeni from Vryka?
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Post by Toma on Mar 27, 2015 7:27:32 GMT
Honestly? This shouldn't go through. Several other members have asked for this and have been told no right from the get-go. They weren't even allowed to put up a poll. So, either this shouldn't go through, or those members that asked for a zeni transfer should get their zeni transfer.
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Ryo
Rising Soul
PL: 39,366; Spiritual Will(x3): 118,098; Items: One-Use SpacePod, Heavy Weights (1/4 of PL), Senzu Bean; Zeni: 297
Tag: @ryo
Posts: 110
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Post by Ryo on Mar 27, 2015 8:35:24 GMT
I was one of the ones who asked. So if it goes through, y'know. X3
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Post by Reikiko on Mar 27, 2015 9:07:06 GMT
I agree with Toma on this aspect.
While I understand that the loss of your Zeni will be annoying, it would be unfair for the other members who pretty much were told 'no' on that aspect.
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Post by President Bao on Mar 28, 2015 14:29:17 GMT
uh... when did these 'several members' ask for zeni transfers? XD I'm sorry guys I genuinely don't recall such requests. (note though: if you didn't actually earn any zeni grades there's no zeni to give - ungraded gains are not transferable.) I remember a couple of people have asked for transfers, I don't recall zeni being the subject matter.
But yes, the existing rule which resulted from a previous thread about items being inheritable was that you transfer pl, not items/zeni, in part because training enhanced gains still count. Taking a guess I'd say my opinion on the matter was 'it could go either way, up to you guys really', though I may be making myself look hypocritical if I said something different before.
Anyway, I noted to Pah here that he could make a thread asking about it and see what the community says (in part because Caesar only ever had zeni[even his beginners was zeni] and never bought an item - a transfer will give him 0pl). Personally, I'm inclined to allow such a thing to people(so would add +1 vote in support) - item transfers are more something I'd personally avoid, but earned zeni *shrug* I don't really see the harm.
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Post by Pah'mazhan on Mar 28, 2015 14:59:24 GMT
If it's a matter of trust and an avoidance of abusing the system, I can promise that's not my intent. I was a former staff member here and an admin on our old site, and can attest to my trustworthiness. I have a majority vote in my favor, with a moderator saying no and an administrator saying yes. I'm not quite sure where that leaves us.
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Post by Reikiko on Mar 28, 2015 23:05:24 GMT
Hmm, I do notice Bao's point. Due to the fact you didn't ask for any PL, and have a low amount of Zeni... I could see this sort of being okayed.
But either we get a rare exception case, or would have to consider a solid rule on 'Zeni' transfers also (unlike the PL only one.
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Post by Wyntre Cold on Mar 28, 2015 23:06:01 GMT
I asked all the way back when Vryka became inactive.
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Post by Toma on Mar 28, 2015 23:08:23 GMT
Honestly? I really don't care what reason it is. Zeni Transfers have been told "no" from the get go. Wyntre asked, was told no. Orache asked, and was told no. Gurin asked, and. was told. No. So either the same holds true here, or all the people that asked for their zeni transfers earlier get the zeni transfer as well. That's just my stance on it.
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Ryo
Rising Soul
PL: 39,366; Spiritual Will(x3): 118,098; Items: One-Use SpacePod, Heavy Weights (1/4 of PL), Senzu Bean; Zeni: 297
Tag: @ryo
Posts: 110
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Post by Ryo on Mar 28, 2015 23:28:07 GMT
^^ Agreed.
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Post by Pah'mazhan on Mar 29, 2015 2:24:38 GMT
There's no reason we can't retroactively give all the zeni transfers to those who asked, I think. At least as a temporary solution until we could come up with written down rules about it, because there was obviously a disconnect somewhere between what was permissible and what wasn't.
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Post by Pah'mazhan on Mar 30, 2015 18:56:53 GMT
Sorry to double post but I found this.
From Bao-
The poll was voted on and passed unanimously. This was already decided on so the new mods shouldn't have denied the people who previously asked for zeni transfers.
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Post by Toma on Mar 30, 2015 20:25:19 GMT
Could you provide a link to this poll? I don't remember seeing one like that.
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Post by Pah'mazhan on Mar 30, 2015 20:32:16 GMT
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