Kiba Dainichi
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Post by Kiba Dainichi on Dec 22, 2014 20:58:49 GMT
okay I'm sorry these are 2 rules I cannot accept. Restricting someone to only 5 training POSTS a week (I'm sure you meant threads but this specifies POSTS, not threads) is retarded, Restricting that further by saying that two of these HAVE to be gravity based or enhanced-zeni or you can't do those further restricts people and THEN if it IS supposed to be THREADS, It's STILL heavily restrictive regardless. To my knowledge training THREADS (Yes I understand it specifies SOLO threads) can be any length yes, but this specifies per week meaning unless you mean for the week they're POSTED and not the week they're GRADED, you're kind of boned with it and it's not something I can honestly let just slide under the bus.
To my knowledge, This site strives to let players have as much freedom as possible, but this kind of restriction is extremely stupid. Restricting gravity-based training to only 2 times per week I can understand because of the massive gains people can achieve once they hit x80 grav training and beyond, especially at 150x gravity. But restricting it to 2 of the 5 training posts/week is heavily limiting since that means they can only actually do 3 if they want to do gravity training at all. As I said, I don't have a problem with restricting gravity training at all, But restricting solo training threads themselves is dumb since the most someone can get is a 75% increase from heavy weights (And like... two fucking people have HEAVY weights, 3 have medium and then everyone else has NONE). And considering you can't have characters YOU own train together/interact together in any meaningful way other than "Hey whats up!" it makes it even more limiting. Personally, I don't see why you CAN'T have characters train/interact with each other if you own two, Especially if you have other people in the thread with you. Because this means that during Saga threads you can only have one character doing each thread despite them being, y'know, SAGA's and thus have to make up some sort of excuse for your other character(s) to not be there. While I can maybe understand this as a "Well it could be you gaming the system" excuse, Even then it's a heavily stretched excuse. Maybe restricting it so that you HAVE to have at least 1 other person you don't control in it actively I could understand, but making it so you can't do it at all is honestly bull shit in it and of itself. As it stands I can't have Kiba participating in Emer's Saga because I have Kojima in it, ICly this makes SOME sense yes because she can't sense power levels, but the destruction of a mountain from someone as powerful as Emer is going to cause a massive quake around the entire planet especially since just Vegeta powering up at 20,000 power level shook the entire planet so she'd feel it and go to investigate, But she can't investigate because Kojima is there. If I took Kojima out it'd make ABSOLUTELY zero sense at all because 1) He CAN sense power levels with his scouter 2) He FELT the quake 3) Ninjin is moving there and he refuses ICly to let her danger herself without trying to do something to reduce her risk level.
Restricting solo threads like this is kinda bullshit honestly, As I said restricting grav training I can understand, but restricting it to be part of these solo threads or not at all is restricting the already limited solo training.
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Hitake Itori
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Post by Hitake Itori on Dec 22, 2014 21:10:25 GMT
Alright, so I've read your request but I have to disagree with you on not limiting solo threads. My reasons are thus.
1. Were trying to discourage you from doing nothing but solo training posts. That makes the site feel like nothing but a grind and we would rather promote rping with one another. Limiting how many solo training posts we can have a week helps promote interaction with others and less I'm going to just sit here and solo away.
2. The staff have their hands full as it is, and taking away the limit on these would make it even harder for everyone to keep up. The limit is there for a reason, its been there since the start and I honestly feel it should stay there. At least you're allowed two of the training threads to be with someone else which makes it more interesting.
3. You get better grades from rping with other people outside of training posts. You're only really limited to how many social threads you're in by where you're at. Honestly I don't really think roleplay here is restricted.
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Kiba Dainichi
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Post by Kiba Dainichi on Dec 22, 2014 21:29:52 GMT
I'm not going to bother reading everything, You want to incentivize people doing things other than solo training posts? You give them a reason to, flat out. Forcing them to rp with others by limiting what they can do by themselves is beyond disgraceful. Incentive them by giving them an increased reward for rping with others, Give them perks or something to go along with rping with others, don't limit someone's ability to do things by themselves. It's restrictive and honestly very aggravating. Let's also not forget about the fact that there is literally like... nobody here that only wants to do solo threads all the time, people go to forums TO BE SOCIAL AND INTERACT WITH OTHERS. If someone was going to be a hermit and not interact with others they wouldn't go to a mall, or an arcade. Same thing for the internet, You don't go to a forum to not interact, you go to it to meet others and interact with others.
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Hitake Itori
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Post by Hitake Itori on Dec 23, 2014 0:45:19 GMT
The thing is you DO get better grades for rping with others then you would solo. It's a known fact that you do. There is your incentive to go out and rp with others.
You've once had an issue with people not reading your stuff, well start reading everything. Because if you had read everything you would have SEEN I stated that you got better stuff for rping with others outside of solo training threads.
I feel the limit should be kept for several reasons that I've stated above, one of them being that if it were removed the flood gates would open and staff would be completely over run with posts to grade. (It will happen if its removed)
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Koramund
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Post by Koramund on Dec 23, 2014 1:19:15 GMT
Hmm.. I agree that 5 threads per week is alright, but if you want to gate how much of a gain gravity is, here would be my own suggestion:
You may have as many solo-training threads with gravity as you want as long as you do not go over your weights (for example, I have heavy weights, that means I can do up to X70 training, but X80 takes from my reserve slots). If you go over, you can do 1 every 3 days. 3 days still means at least 2 per week, but that gives you a extra free one every 3 weeks, this way you are getting slightly less gains if you have low and heavy weights, but it allows you to get more of the threads to rank up faster. If this system is in place and all 5 of my threads were gravity training threads, I would get a 75% increase from my weights, but no other bonus. If I then spend my 8th day, I would get a 80% bonus, then 3 days later 90%, and so on and so forth.
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Kiba Dainichi
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Post by Kiba Dainichi on Dec 23, 2014 1:43:50 GMT
The thing is you DO get better grades for rping with others then you would solo. It's a known fact that you do. There is your incentive to go out and rp with others. You've once had an issue with people not reading your stuff, well start reading everything. Because if you had read everything you would have SEEN I stated that you got better stuff for rping with others outside of solo training threads. I feel the limit should be kept for several reasons that I've stated above, one of them being that if it were removed the flood gates would open and staff would be completely over run with posts to grade. (It will happen if its removed) TYVM but I DID fucking read it. If you understand that we do then you should bloody well know that there is literally no reason to limit someone's ability to do solo threads. You're going against your own words by saying that limiting someone's ability to do solo threads should be allowed. I didn't read it all because there was no fucking reason too read it all when you literally just say exactly what I did except for some reason disagree with it. Your post makes no sense, You say that we have incentivized ways of making it so people rp with others but agree with FORCING them to have too? Seriously? You're agreeing and wanting people to be restricted in a board that so heavily tries to emphasize power to the RPers? Really? Really? REALLY? Fact of the matter is even if, As you claim, Staff are "Swamped with threads to grade" that doesn't mean they HAVE to fucking grade them ASAP. Yea it'd be nice but they still have lives and, honestly, as it is, The staff were ALREADY swamped. Limiting it or not it literally changes nothing except giving people more FREEDOM, which hey guess what? THIS BOARD EMPHASIZES IT WANTS TO DO.
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Hitake Itori
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Post by Hitake Itori on Dec 23, 2014 1:57:23 GMT
Because it stops the people from spamming solo posts because we all know it will happen, which causes an even larger over flow on the staff!(which whether or not you think matters, it does matter! If we have a massive backlog of stuff nothing is going to get done!) That and we don't want people doing a lot of solo threads! You said you didn't read all of it now you're saying you did read it. Kiba, you're the one that doesn't make sense!
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Kiba Dainichi
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Post by Kiba Dainichi on Dec 23, 2014 2:19:22 GMT
...................................... Let me put it this way then:
I READ MOST OF IT
"That doesn't make sense" really? I didn't read all of it but I did read it, OBVIOUSNESS IS OBVIOUS.
People aren't going to "flood" it anymore than it already is by removing the limit, People are going to do more than 5 anyway and all this does is force them to wait, and wait, and wait, and wait longer and longer to submit their training posts, Not only this but this limit means that TWO of the 5 HAVE to be grav training threads otherwise they CANNOT do their grav training for the week. This means they actually can only submit THREE solo threads a week if they want to be able to do their grav training.
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Remo
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Post by Remo on Dec 23, 2014 2:50:33 GMT
I won't pretend to know exactly what is going on here but I agree with Hitake. The reason is simple: I've seen it happen. One site, a different DBZ site, had to limit powerlevel gains from self topic to 10k per month because fast writers were jumping into the hundreds of thousands when the bulk of the site was still under fifty thousand. Another site had to create a rule that there could only be one solo topic per character at a time because everyone was so busy roleplaying their individual stories that there was little to no interaction between the player characters.
In short I find there to be absolutely no problems with the current restrictions and that they are quite fair as they are now.
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