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Post by Kaula on Aug 29, 2015 1:33:56 GMT
It takes a lot to make a stew. A pinch of salt and laughter too. A scoop of kids to add some spice. A dash of love to make things nice, and you've got too many cooks Saiyans.
Jokes aside, the amount of Saiyans compared to the other races. Now I know some of you people were saying maybe a lock on new Saiyans for now, but I think that can be very bad for the site in terms of new people. Yes, we have a lot of Saiyans. But that's because they are the "lol cool i wanna be cool" race since the main characters were Saiyans. So yeah. If we lock them, we're just going to lose a lot of new players to either another site or LDR (lol that site closed).
Instead I suggest we provide incentives for other races. I don't know what, but I figured we should make a thread about it instead of yapping about it in Skype.
edit: lol this was moved from staff chat. THANKS ZUCCETA
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Post by Xanthon on Aug 29, 2015 1:38:49 GMT
What about the people who already made a non-saiyan and has advocated something be dome about the saiyans (Incentives for other races along these lines but I never thought bout it)? lol But yea I'm all for coming up with other incentives for making other races maybe like for a limitied time they get a Pl/zeni gaining boost? Or maybe a certain thread count for that boost or something? Or Maybe just more starting PL or more starting Zeni?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 1:42:09 GMT
Why not temporarily give new characters of other races a boost in Power Level or Zeni at start, or a temporary Power Level modifier.
But yeah, there are too many Saiyans on the site at the moment. I've been trying to get aliens, and other races to join the SSE, because it's been getting boring roleplaying with only Saiyans and the same Saiyans constantly.
I mean, it's an Empire there should be more than just Saiyans within it. When I think of an Empire in DBZ, my thoughts automatically go to the Planet Trade Organization. There aren't only just Arcosians in it, there are members of a whole lot of races in it, not just one race with only a very tiny minority of other races in it.
It would be a great idea to give new players some sort of incentive to play the other races, like a boost to Power Level or Zeni, maybe even a temporary modifier to get them to 100K quicker.
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Aug 29, 2015 2:10:50 GMT
I'm against giving bonuses towards making non saiyans, what I believe Kaula was suggesting was overhauling the races to make them more appealing. As it stands there's a bit of a noticeable tier list it seems going on in terms of overall balance.
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Post by Xanthon on Aug 29, 2015 2:17:34 GMT
I'm against giving bonuses towards making non saiyans, what I believe Kaula was suggesting was overhauling the races to make them more appealing. As it stands there's a bit of a noticeable tier list it seems going on in terms of overall balance. Yea but saiyans are meant to be powerful when it comes to IC stuff what do you mean by 'noticeable tier list'? Like do you mean making the teirs transformation o other races stronger by upping the modifier? Cause I don't think that's a good way of doing it simply because of how it was in the show. I think the transformation modifiers are as good as they can get right now for the races. But if you didn't mean that then just..ignore everything after I asked you what you meant. lol
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Post by Mimikku on Aug 29, 2015 2:55:37 GMT
Personally a catch up for non saiyans or non saiyan hybrids would be perfect. I am not talking about something insane like 1-2% at most. Cause sure right now there are two people that could fight about 80% of the site at once but the issue is with so many saiyans it has kind of made the site a bit lop sided toward the SSE steamrolling any and everyone. Which will lead to good rp mind you but yea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 9:11:02 GMT
Not in favor of a pl or zeni boost so much. Perhaps overhauling some things like nic said would be the better route. Given I believe some races had changes comeing their way anyway perhaps looking more towards that kinda stuff and how to better the races naturally then just some momentary boost so that way thay are more naturally appealing and not just cause of a boost
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Post by Nicolas Mclendon on Aug 29, 2015 9:22:51 GMT
Personally a catch up for non saiyans or non saiyan hybrids would be perfect. I am not talking about something insane like 1-2% at most. Cause sure right now there are two people that could fight about 80% of the site at once but the issue is with so many saiyans it has kind of made the site a bit lop sided toward the SSE steamrolling any and everyone. Which will lead to good rp mind you but yea. There's already mechanics in place to help the lower powered characters get caught up. Giving a boost to all but one race would be really unfair while it's true that the bulk of the power rests on the saiyans we shouldn't punish people for playing what they want to play. Especially since a proposed boost like this would only serve to hurt new players who decide to play saiyans.
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Post by Xanthon on Aug 29, 2015 9:24:50 GMT
Not in favor of a pl or zeni boost so much. Perhaps overhauling some things like nic said would be the better route. Given I believe some races had changes comeing their way anyway perhaps looking more towards that kinda stuff and how to better the races naturally then just some momentary boost so that way thay are more naturally appealing and not just cause of a boost You can only better some of the less attractive races so much before they become unnaturally like they are in the DBZ series. Like..you don't want to overpower the races to much just to compensate for the many saiyans. Like the new trans, from what I seen are pretty darn well balanced across the board. BUT The saiyans still have that, as kaula put it 'lol cool I wanna be cool' factor. Just messing around with the trans and stuff won't necessarily appeal much to players who still want that 'cool super saiyan'. At least in my opinion they won't. I think an added incentive would still be needed to want others to play a different race. And these boosts wont last forever both IC and OOC like as soon as some of the other races get filled out more out the boosts would stop. Edit: Nic:There's already mechanics in place to help the lower powered characters get caught up. Giving a boost to all but one race would be really unfair while it's true that the bulk of the power rests on the saiyans we shouldn't punish people for playing what they want to play. Especially since a proposed boost like this would only serve to hurt new players who decide to play saiyans. Well I mean the SSE have a pretty large population, enough to overwhelm every world if they wanted to. That's a little unfair isn't it? And yea there are a lot of boosts for new players in effect to help catch up to the later players but I mean the Boost doesn't have to be a increase in gains through RP it could just be like Extra Zeni at the start kind of like a Non-saiyan Sale or giveaway or something.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 9:37:58 GMT
That doesn't seem fair given not all saiyans are actually part of SSE or hybrids that are part saiyans. I don't agree with giving out bonuses to all but one race just cause people pick one race idea over another. Rp will change occasionally and various groups will have high powers for a time. Limiting a race cause on group is strong presently doesn't make much sense. Which it will likely also end up punishing those who play the race but have nothing to do with that organization. Whatever is done should be something natural not a momentary boost. New players that make another race should do so cause they want too. : P No simply becuaase boosts as well as some random player who makes a saiyan shouldn't be punished for doing so. Seems like a bad solution and as for the race changes there are already planned changes that are coming anyway regaurdless. So its why I think that trying to get them moving a little faster is the better choice. Given when they are vamped to their more intersting and redone ways more may desire to play as them.
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Post by Xanthon on Aug 29, 2015 9:46:45 GMT
This this thread is pointless then if nothing is being proposed and liked to try and stop the saiyan overhaul seeing as theirs very little one can do to try and appeal newcomers to the other races lol And who's saying anything about punishing the saiyans though? I mean a little extra zeni incentive toward other races isn't hurting the saiyans. It's not like were taking away anything from the saiyans. Just giving something more to the other races as a smaller reason to try and play them. People are going to want to play who they want to play right? If thats true then a little more incentive towards other races won't change their opinion much but it'll be there in case someone is maybe on the fence about what they want to play and may be more inclined to pick a non-saiyan.
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Post by Oriki on Aug 29, 2015 16:51:59 GMT
What if we put a lock on good Saiyans?
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Post by Maeve Rakshasa on Aug 29, 2015 17:09:54 GMT
The abundance on evil/neutral saiyans is the problem not the good ones
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 17:14:35 GMT
What if we put a lock on good Saiyans? I hope this just a jest xD We shouldn't put a lock on something like that just cause people like to play what they want. An the majority of our saiyans are already evil
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Post by Chaz on Aug 29, 2015 17:49:04 GMT
I think what Xanthon suggested was fine. Giving a little bit of an incentive, like a Zeni bonus or something towards other races would be fine. It wouldn't hurt the Saiyan race at all. One, there is a butt-ton of them. People are going to play what they want to play regardless. It just may help those who are stuck on choosing whether to be a Saiyan or a Namekian, a Saiyan or a Human, etc. It may help them be more inclined to picking the other race over the Saiyan.
That's just my two cents.
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