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Post by Natto on Aug 7, 2015 1:51:26 GMT
I liked Vi-Poi's option the best. Using the 150G would be too ordinary for something worth a year of training... i wouldn't see any harm in increasing it up to 250G, since it is a twice a life time thing and then never again...
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Post by Zuni on Aug 7, 2015 6:34:39 GMT
I like the 200g thing - I think it should be 20,000 a time max though - partly because if you can be bothered to churn out 20k words, good luck to you, but mostly because that's the same wordcount as you can get per week and it'd feel odd to me to do a year's worth of training that can still net you less than your average week bumming around the normal chamber.
I also don't think it should be related to Dogi. The Holy Water is the Dogi bonus for Kami. The HBTC is a unique training tool that the Z-Fighters get access to - and most Z-Fighters do not have the Dogi for Kami. I think giving the Z-Fighters the HBTC is a suitable 'special bonus' comparable to the specials our other canon faction leaders get, and at twice ever per character probably isn't too overpowered.
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Post by ken on Aug 7, 2015 7:39:50 GMT
Well it should be related to Kami or their popo. After all, the time chamber is listed as one of the Kami things. It's not just the holy water. After all they usually are only allowed access to it if one of Kami's assistants give it. Like, popo gave access to the Z-fighters before and Picollo gave access to Goten and Trunks.
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Post by Tao Lung on Aug 21, 2015 14:22:57 GMT
I think the chamber could get a different grading system, due to its uniqueness, that is directly based off the person's power level. Say, for every 1.000 words you write within the chamber you gain +3% power level (max of 20.000 word, for a x1.6 increase). If you going with another player character, the increase goes up by +1% per 1k words If you have weights on, the increase goes up by +1% per 1k words
That means if you have both weights and a player controlled partner, you can get x2 pl out of it. However, if you're at a point where the weights' effectiveness in training drops, they simply won't affect the power boost.
As a ground rule NO MEMORIES AND FLASHBACKS within the chamber. You must actually write about training and about your stay in the HBTC. If the grading admin notices you're remembering things more than doing push-ups/exercises in order to force your word count up, the thread will be graded like an usual solo/multi-person thread and you'll use up one of your two shots within the chamber.
Even though I believe given these restrictions, we will hardly have ppl hitting 10k word count, which accounts for half the maximum gains, if people think this is too powerful, what could be done is to imput penalties to the maximum gains according to how powerful the person is. - Going early game at up to x pl allows for the maximum of x2 pl gain. - Going mid-game at up to y pl allows for a maximum of x1.5 pl gain. - Going late game above y pl allows for a maximum of x1.3 pl gain.
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Post by Zexama on Sept 1, 2015 11:45:06 GMT
I think the chamber could get a different grading system, due to its uniqueness, that is directly based off the person's power level. Say, for every 1.000 words you write within the chamber you gain +3% power level (max of 20.000 word, for a x1.6 increase). If you going with another player character, the increase goes up by +1% per 1k words If you have weights on, the increase goes up by +1% per 1k words That means if you have both weights and a player controlled partner, you can get x2 pl out of it. However, if you're at a point where the weights' effectiveness in training drops, they simply won't affect the power boost. As a ground rule NO MEMORIES AND FLASHBACKS within the chamber. You must actually write about training and about your stay in the HBTC. If the grading admin notices you're remembering things more than doing push-ups/exercises in order to force your word count up, the thread will be graded like an usual solo/multi-person thread and you'll use up one of your two shots within the chamber. Even though I believe given these restrictions, we will hardly have ppl hitting 10k word count, which accounts for half the maximum gains, if people think this is too powerful, what could be done is to imput penalties to the maximum gains according to how powerful the person is. - Going early game at up to x pl allows for the maximum of x2 pl gain. - Going mid-game at up to y pl allows for a maximum of x1.5 pl gain. - Going late game above y pl allows for a maximum of x1.3 pl gain. Good work and thinking but I'm pretty sure 100x gravity is 2x...
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Post by Tao Lung on Sept 2, 2015 13:30:37 GMT
Well, I'm oblivious to how gains work, but when I say x2, I don't say x2 gains. I say x2 pl. So if you go in with weights and a partner at 70.000 pl for example and write 20.000 words, you won't gain +40.000 pl. You'll double your pl for a +70.000 gain.
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Post by Bing Gan on Sept 5, 2015 10:57:38 GMT
Alright, here's my suggestion for the HBTC Ruleset! It's not original, but I made it a teensy bit more concise than the others I've read (Sorry if that sounds rude)
The Hype-Ebonic Lion Tamer!
Requires permission from the active Kami/his "Popo" to use. (No emblem required, just permission, seeing as Kami kinda lives on the Lookout and all.)
Twice in your character's life, you can access the uber powerful Room of Spirit and Time. Once inside, the door locks for an entire year, keeping you trapped to train to your hearts content! (added this so people don't do HBTC threads while also making new threads outside the room. It'd make for some odd liquid time)
For the entire year (1-2 OOC Weeks, depending on how slow the participants are), all threads must be made in the brand new "Room of Spirit and Time" Board. All posts in this board will have a boost to your gains as if you were in a gravity chamber kicked up to x150 Earth's Gravity!
While in the Room of Spirit and Time, you will have a WC limit of 10k words to use for all solo threads, and 20k for group threads(20k is not shared for both, so both participants can each have a max of 20k equaling out to 40k total). As with the 20k WC solo rule we all adhere to, If you go over this limit you will not receive any gains for the words that go over (10,001 words? No gains for that 1 word!)
Attempting to use the Room of Spirit and Time more than twice will lock your character inside for eternity! So...don't do that! (not sure what the actual mechanics would be for that if any...maybe you have to drop the character/they die and are sent to Otherworld?)
Though I think this is a bit underpowered, there's not much more to it than that! I think this seems okay, but I'd love some criticism from all of you!
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Post by Tao Lung on Sept 5, 2015 22:01:00 GMT
I think the idea of locking the character for eternity is good for it's canon. You would have to kill yourself if you wanted to get out of there. Or us a dimensional break technique.
I do believe however, that given the limited times you can go in, your gains should be higher than gravity.
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Post by Bing Gan on Sept 5, 2015 22:05:41 GMT
Perhaps you are correct, I've seen some suggest 200x, or even 220x! Those both sound a bit better for a twice-in-a-life thing, but keep in mind we do need to balance it. The Villains will NEVER be allowed to use this, so we can't make it too strong, otherwise half the roster will be infinitely stronger as long as they're my friend.
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Post by Tao Lung on Sept 5, 2015 22:46:23 GMT
I have an idea to counterbalance that.
For villains, make it so every villain in the site gains a boost to their gains whenever they initiate a saga as the antagonist. GSince it'll be a recurring bonus they could use, it would have to be something way less than 150 gravity, but given the fact they would get to get it several times, I think it all balances out. It would also be a good way to foment villains taking action in the site.
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