Bing Gan
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Post by Bing Gan on May 18, 2015 8:42:20 GMT
I was thinking on this earlier, and some people in the cbox gave me the Idea (Thanks to Vennel). Basically what I was thinking is this: In DBZ we find out that planet vegeta has a higher gravity than earth does. I believe it was somewhere around 10x earths gravity. So for instance, if someone were to start on earth and then fly to Vegeta, wouldn't they get slightly increased gains? From the little I know of the grading system, 10x Gravity Chamber training gives you an extra 0.1 to your PL Gain per word. So if Planet Vegeta has a higher Gravity, wouldn't threads there have a similar or the same effect as 10x Grav training? I know that having weights would basically cancel it out anyways, but It's something I thought about. It's not just planet vegeta either, planets like Zoon also have high gravity, so if a thread occurred there somehow It would probably have a similar effect. Please let me know your thoughts everyone! (Basically if you didn't understand exactly what I'm suggesting, It's to add a sort of hidden modifier to threads that occur on certain planets that have high gravity as evidenced in the show. Though I think this modifier might make more sense for those who weren't born on the high gravity planet/aren't used to gravity that high.)
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Daiki Iranos
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Post by Daiki Iranos on May 18, 2015 15:15:02 GMT
Make a whole lot of sense right there, i'm with you Bing, it does make a lot of sense
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 15:16:21 GMT
Agreed
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Post by Gleciar Avierno on May 18, 2015 15:18:55 GMT
Thats a really good point, but like you said, it depends on what planet you are...
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Post by Pah'mazhan on May 18, 2015 16:15:52 GMT
Hey Bing Gan, on the previous site, Wodresurrection, we did have a x10 gravity multiplier on Vegeta, which served the dual purpose of also giving more people the incentive to RP there. Your suggestion isn't too far fetched, but for some reason the multiplier was removed in the rebirth of this site, so we'll see what some of the higher ups have to say about it.
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Doctor Kouda
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Post by Doctor Kouda on May 18, 2015 18:45:51 GMT
I'd be all for it.
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Post by Vennel on May 18, 2015 20:00:31 GMT
Now, I was originally all for the idea, but I got to thinking about it, and doing this now might ruin a bit of the balance, and also make it impossible to monitor.
On the one hand, it would make sense for a human born on earth, who travels to Vegeta, to get a chance (like goku on king kai's world) to adjust to the drastically increased gravity. But on the other, since the site started with earth, many saiyans or half saiyans, or what have you, who would have been born on vegeta started on earth. This would punch gaping holes in their story if the 10x gravity never affected them, even though their body was built/born to withstand it. Not to mention, there'd need to be limits on what planets can be used and would have higher gravity and what that would be. Because otherwise anyone could just go into deep space and find a planet with 50x earth's gravity, or something. And that could be a bad thing.
Now, that's just one of the issues that could have become a problem, but on the flip side, it could just be ignored, and handled more like an RP flavor thing. If you're not from Vegeta, or haven't trained under heavy gravity, then you would have trouble threading on the planet at first, as your body needs to take time to slowly adjust to the drastic increase, since you can't just slowly adjust at smaller integers.
So I dunno. I'm kinda neutral on the subject.
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Vi-Poi
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Post by Vi-Poi on May 19, 2015 3:22:21 GMT
I was thinking something along these lines, but more of a racial bonus for Saiyans as Namek's exact G and other planets are never stated. Their bonus, and it'd be a small one, is that they can start their G trainings at a x20, meaning they get to their x150 1 week early, and pace up faster.
Perhaps both ideas could be combined, but I'm a little leery of adding additional bonus modifiers to the grading. It's already pretty thick with bonuses, and the way gravity is usually graded without getting too deep into it, it might be a meaningless bonus for most people. To have a technical significance, it'd have to be a 'Planet Gravity' bonus that behaved differently, and that'd be a new class of bonuses for graders to contend with.
So I'm sort of on the fence.
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Post by Hyoza on May 19, 2015 9:30:36 GMT
Nooooooooooo.
Unnecessary complication of the system. Too hard to balance.
Everyone will go to Vegeta - regardless of whether or not it makes sense to do so - just to get the extra gains.
Just no.
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Post by President Bao on May 20, 2015 4:43:06 GMT
@pah; Until recently earth was the only planet we had here I don't see an issue with certain planets having increased gravity personally, people heading there to train isn't necessarily a bad thing per se if we're wanting to encourage a more interplanetary environment now rather than just earth-focused. My immediate thought was - Vegeta x10 Brench x10 (^since they were stated to have such) Arcose x20? x15? or x10 If balance is a concern, we can have it use the same rules as gravity chamber training (can only be 'used' a limited amount per week, and has to be mastered in the same way), meaning you won't always be getting the benefit, but works as essentially 'free' x10 gravity chamber access while you are there.
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Post by Toma on May 20, 2015 4:52:03 GMT
Or just make it to where after X number of threads on Vegeta you stop getting the gains as your body has adjusted to it. To quote Vegeta when he was on Planet Zoon: "Maybe, if this was 500 times gravity, you might have an advantage. But ten? I don't even feel it."
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Post by Gleciar Avierno on May 20, 2015 5:00:02 GMT
I think that a combination of what Toma and Bao are saying is the best option, it would give people a reason to leave Earth and a temporary bonus until like Toma said they get used to it.
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Post by Benetto Giri (Fluentinnerd) on May 20, 2015 5:23:10 GMT
My thought process is one that's been brought up before. Perhaps players going to new areas should get boosted PL and Zeni gains until the areas gain in population, which could be explained perhaps by the different gravity and the unexplored or underrepresented territory. It just seems like an interesting way to help the other forum boards grow, and to let the SSE and AE have the actual importance that they're supposed to have.
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Post by Vennel on May 20, 2015 21:09:55 GMT
well the best way for a new area to grow in activity is for people to go there and start it. Since until recently it was all earth centric, we have planets that people dont want to go to because theres no one on them, and because no one goes to them, theres no one on them. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
People just need to start going places, and doing things, and staying there. Will that mean you dont have all the options for threading as others do? Sure. But that would only be temporary, as people start going to these other planets.
as far as gravity goes for these other planets, well, bao has a pretty decent idea of it. You'd be RPing at those gravity levels for a decent while, and that gravity isnt even that significant, so some people might just ignore it altogether. At least, from what I've heard with how gravity works.
And for people saying it overcomplicates things, how? It just means you have to read what planet they're on, and apply the gravity bonus that's appropriate. No different than grading a regular gravity thread >>
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Post by Hyoza on May 20, 2015 21:22:51 GMT
There's also the fact that character history comes into it a lot.
If a Saiyan is native to Vegeta, the gravity isn't going to effect them much, but if they were from earth it's going to be a whole other story. It adds another layer of stuff staff need to keep track of.
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