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Post by Wyntre Cold on Jan 22, 2015 3:38:37 GMT
Technique Name: [SU] Instant Transformation > Wiki None such thing, apologies. Description: Wyntre had been going from her forms, simply cycling threw them, and trying to break her transformation times. Wyntre can move between any of her transformations with-in a few seconds, as well as do something as well in the same turn, like charge, attack, dodge, flee, or something similar. When transforming, Wyntre is enveloped in a bright light, but not bright enough to stun, but merely to not be able to clearly see Wyntre's general frame, as she transforms. She also plans to later implement force-fields into this, but that's just a possible future SU2/SU3. Wyntre Cold: This is a difficult thing to work with. The way I see it, it should be discussed with the community as this could be an actual racial Arcosians get. I would reword this, so that it's written in a way that it is a more generalized version and not just apply to Wyntre. Hello there! I would like to discuss a technique slot to be allocated to being made able to make some transformations instant for people who don't have instant transformations (like Arcosians), i.e. being able to transform within a few seconds and then attack in the same turn. I personally believe this should become a SU2, with a more simple version required too. DISCUSS!
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Ora
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Post by Ora on Jan 22, 2015 3:46:17 GMT
No.
Trans should take up a turn.
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Sha-ung
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Post by Sha-ung on Jan 22, 2015 3:57:52 GMT
No. Trans should take up a turn. Yeah, the fact that one would be able to transform into True form straight away, or Oozaru in just one turn and attack someone would be a little op.
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Pipa
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Post by Pipa on Jan 22, 2015 3:57:51 GMT
I'm alright with this but a tech per form, and anyone should be allowed to do this as a tech. Also in tiered order of transformation, so for Wyntre she would need to buy it for her lowest forms before getting to True.
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Post by Scargot on Jan 22, 2015 3:58:28 GMT
Yeah I agree, they should take a turn. With everyone going to get higher and higher with more and more transformations I don't want people going X10 X12 + instantly that's too much.
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Pipa
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Post by Pipa on Jan 22, 2015 4:04:05 GMT
Honestly think you guys are being hard on Tak here. If anyone can do this at the expense of blowing techs it just adds some more dynamics beyond boring old M3 spams.
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Jan 22, 2015 4:09:59 GMT
Here's my thought on the matter: Consider this. As an Arcosian gets stronger, they can learn how to better manage their body's composition, and upon reaching the level of Royal, they gain the ability to shift quickly between their Base form and their True forms. The royal form, though, would require the same 1 turn post to adjust. In fair consideration, on top of this, they're gonna start being outclassed later on, when there's mastered super saiyans alone. Meaning, they've gotta get a way to increase their power, or access their transformation faster.
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Kojima
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Post by Kojima on Jan 22, 2015 4:39:29 GMT
Here's my two cents even if ya'll don't want them.
As we've seen in the show, Goku (When he got SSJ3) was able to go SSJ1 and SSJ2 instantly, but took a long time to build up SSJ3 vs Buu, Here's my suggestion: You can ONLY instantly transform into transformations 1 or more lower than your current one. So for Saiyans, if they have SSJ2 unlocked, they can instant trans into SSJ1, but not SSJ2. If they have SSJ3, then SSJ1 and SSJ2 can be instant trans'd.
Edit: HOWEVER, If you want this ability you must increase the post requirement to transform to your highest state by 1 post per previous transformation allowed to be instant trans'd and this cannot be changed once decided. It's decided immediately upon unlocking your next stage whether you want instant trans for your previous trans.
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Jettasin
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Post by Jettasin on Jan 22, 2015 16:46:02 GMT
My thoughts are similar to those of Kojima.Final form should take longer to transform into unless you specifically master it.
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Post by President Bao on Jan 25, 2015 14:05:53 GMT
I see no issue with using a tech slot to make transformation quicker myself, such as skipping a form(one form skipped per tech slot maybe?).
Transformations are already pretty instant, but spending a tech slot to free you up to attack isn't all that crazy.
I remember long ago before I took over, I put a suggestion in staff area for consideration - that maybe transformations should need charging to activate just like in the show, and you could spend a tech slot to make them instant, and other possible forms of mastery.
Never became a thing (I had no strong conviction one way or the other so I certainly didn't mind), though some races do have 'mastered' forms already.
Such as Arcosian who can choose (once they reach the required pl) to either gain the '100% max power' trans(like Frieza), or the mastered true form(like Coola).
Mastered True removes their suppressive forms altogether, meaning they don't need to transform anymore as they already have control of their true form's strength.
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Jan 26, 2015 1:22:08 GMT
Mastered True removes their suppressive forms altogether, meaning they don't need to transform anymore as they already have control of their true form's strength. That's implying something surprisingly big that I didn't see when I was updating the Arcosians earlier... Are you implying that Arcosians, upon mastering their true form, gain the ability to strengthen themselves 100% from threads??? That's what I'm seeing and is confusing me a tad right there. If that's the case, that's also kinda bringing up the question of why the Royal form's not so strong... Yeah, it got beaten by Super Saiyan level 1, but before I jump the gun to that question (or anyone else does), was what you just implied for Mastered True form to be the case or no?
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