Jettasin
Rising Soul
PL: 31,775; Oozaru:(x10) 317,750; Items: Scouter, One-Use SpacePod, Senzu Bean; Zeni: 1,029
Tag: @jettasin
OOC Name: Saiyan, Demon
Posts: 100
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Post by Jettasin on Jan 7, 2015 1:06:28 GMT
Let's face it, we all have those days where our muse isn't at max, I think some optional side quests could help writing and give a character something to do in "off time". I picture them being like the Dbz movies and they don't really have to follow your current character plot. Some could offer both PL AND money, like bounty hunting quests or something? Idk, I just know that there are times when some help is needed when looking for something to RP.
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Pipa
Archived
PL: 19,119; Great Namek(Demonic Will) (x3); Makyo Star(x8); Items: One-Use Space Pod, Onyx Scimitar, 1 5,000PL Guard, Upgraded Ship (6 occupant ship), x80 Gravity Chamber, Heavy Weights; Zeni: 0
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Post by Pipa on Jan 7, 2015 1:15:47 GMT
Typically, you are supposed to have a discussion before creating a poll. However, this has been discussed before (sort of), so perhaps they will allow the voting to happen. I don't really see the need to incentivize a writing prompt (which is what a quest is in a PBP RP). While it could be nice to have a list of things you could do, if the point is to help someone who can't come up with something to write about out I don't see why they would need an extra reward.
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Jettasin
Rising Soul
PL: 31,775; Oozaru:(x10) 317,750; Items: Scouter, One-Use SpacePod, Senzu Bean; Zeni: 1,029
Tag: @jettasin
OOC Name: Saiyan, Demon
Posts: 100
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Post by Jettasin on Jan 7, 2015 1:36:16 GMT
I was hoping that since it had sort of been discussed, it'd be allowed. And I think it's more like an incentive to help motivation, and could be a way to award money as well. Choosing one or the other can be difficult with what you have planned for your character so I thought it'd be nice at least once and a while to be able to obtain both but...that wasn't even the MAIN point, it was a mere "throw in" idea. Having some plots listed that people could run with, could help. Everyone will write them out differently, I don't think it'd hurt...
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Jan 7, 2015 1:49:28 GMT
Locking the poll for now. Needs a longer discussion, Jet. I'll open it back up when there's a good enough amount discussion about this.
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Pipa
Archived
PL: 19,119; Great Namek(Demonic Will) (x3); Makyo Star(x8); Items: One-Use Space Pod, Onyx Scimitar, 1 5,000PL Guard, Upgraded Ship (6 occupant ship), x80 Gravity Chamber, Heavy Weights; Zeni: 0
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Post by Pipa on Jan 7, 2015 1:56:33 GMT
The problem with it offering a unique reward like PL+Zeni, is that these writing prompts get more value than a self crafted thread. If the current bounty hunting quest doesn't match my interests and I do a solo that is also a bounty hunting thread, I can't get the same type of reward that the guy with the stamped quest. PL+Zeni was done away with for a reason.
The other issue is that this is supposed to be a player driven site. Quests provide the makers vision of the kinds of things that should be going on in roleplay.
The mechanics for these things already do exist, the types of characters needed for it do not. If someone, or a group of someones, wanted to pool together the zeni to place bounties on people then nothing would stop them. On that note, you could be getting quests from other players who might need something or in response to another group or character (AKA a saga)
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Jettasin
Rising Soul
PL: 31,775; Oozaru:(x10) 317,750; Items: Scouter, One-Use SpacePod, Senzu Bean; Zeni: 1,029
Tag: @jettasin
OOC Name: Saiyan, Demon
Posts: 100
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Post by Jettasin on Jan 7, 2015 2:39:42 GMT
OPTIONAL. Says it all. I figured it'd be locked. Just delete this. I can't. Was simply offering an idea that has help boost things in my prior experience and like I already said it was a small thrown out idea, I couldn't care less if rewards were offered at all. I KNOW it's entirely player driven but offering some OPTIONAL help could possibly help. That's all I am saying.
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Pipa
Archived
PL: 19,119; Great Namek(Demonic Will) (x3); Makyo Star(x8); Items: One-Use Space Pod, Onyx Scimitar, 1 5,000PL Guard, Upgraded Ship (6 occupant ship), x80 Gravity Chamber, Heavy Weights; Zeni: 0
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Post by Pipa on Jan 7, 2015 2:47:17 GMT
There is no need to be upset about it. Part of a democratic process is having to deal with those who disagree with you.
I am pointing out that when something optional grants optimal gains over other things, it is no longer optional to those who want the best reward they can get.
I do not oppose having some writing prompts (quests) being listed, but because you included the zeni+pl bonus into your original statement, I argued against that part of it.
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Post by Scargot on Jan 7, 2015 2:48:25 GMT
I actually like the idea of Optional side quests OR Side Sagas. Maybe like set "Sagas" People could perform for story purposes I mean the option of gaining some PL/Zeni could be there but that is where the poll would come in but I do think these extra pieces of story could be good.
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Jettasin
Rising Soul
PL: 31,775; Oozaru:(x10) 317,750; Items: Scouter, One-Use SpacePod, Senzu Bean; Zeni: 1,029
Tag: @jettasin
OOC Name: Saiyan, Demon
Posts: 100
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Post by Jettasin on Jan 7, 2015 3:09:59 GMT
I'm not upset. The way I worded that part, I didn't expect it to be premise of the argument. I'm fine with arguing points but you keep focusing on what I literally was LEAST saying. I said some COULD. That wasn't the MAIN point. Tired of stating that is all...
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Jan 7, 2015 3:22:21 GMT
Just needs to be discussed is all. Personally, I like that thought, if the thought's expanded upon. We need a visual idea on your proposal. What's the grand scheme design?
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Jettasin
Rising Soul
PL: 31,775; Oozaru:(x10) 317,750; Items: Scouter, One-Use SpacePod, Senzu Bean; Zeni: 1,029
Tag: @jettasin
OOC Name: Saiyan, Demon
Posts: 100
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Post by Jettasin on Jan 7, 2015 3:38:20 GMT
Anything. I'd think it'd go like:
"The Bear Thief"
A thief has been stealing from different villages (and/or cities), he wears Bearskin armor, this his where his obvious title comes from. You happen to come upon him, seeing him in the act of breaking into someone's residence (/office?). What do you do?
As a random idea that could be a design, they could be TONS of things in the DB world. Lots of things can happen. Dinosaurs can come into play, hidden tournaments, pirates/space pirates, etc. The possibilities are pretty much endless in the DB/Z universe.
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Jan 7, 2015 4:05:16 GMT
We'll need to look at the numbers and the downside of doing such missions. Keep in mind, due to the age our characters live in, it'll be very odd to see someone getting milk delivered to their house, unless it is in an 'old fashioned,' county, old fashioned being what we've seen in the show, at least on Earth.
So, I'd like to see your rough idea and see if we can't knit-pick it and make it nice, if possible.
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Pipa
Archived
PL: 19,119; Great Namek(Demonic Will) (x3); Makyo Star(x8); Items: One-Use Space Pod, Onyx Scimitar, 1 5,000PL Guard, Upgraded Ship (6 occupant ship), x80 Gravity Chamber, Heavy Weights; Zeni: 0
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Post by Pipa on Jan 7, 2015 6:00:38 GMT
I'm not upset. The way I worded that part, I didn't expect it to be premise of the argument. I'm fine with arguing points but you keep focusing on what I literally was LEAST saying. I said some COULD. That wasn't the MAIN point. Tired of stating that is all... And I agreed with your main point several times, so I am discussing what I do not agree with. Even if what you call a small point might not matter to you personally, it is still on topic with the discussion because it was being packaged in with the rest. I didn't step out of the bounds of the topic at all, and having my points dismissed as derailing instead of providing a counter arguement to a part of your own topic isn't a productive way to respond.
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Jettasin
Rising Soul
PL: 31,775; Oozaru:(x10) 317,750; Items: Scouter, One-Use SpacePod, Senzu Bean; Zeni: 1,029
Tag: @jettasin
OOC Name: Saiyan, Demon
Posts: 100
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Post by Jettasin on Jan 7, 2015 6:20:41 GMT
You're right. I'm not productive in this. I'm the newbie. I won't suggest anything until that's changed. Your opinion weighs heavier. Let's just drop it already. Geez...
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Post by President Bao on Jan 17, 2015 11:16:09 GMT
That's not how it works Jett, new or old, it's all about constructing your justification and engaging with your fellow members If you don't have a satisfactory solution/answer, then all you need to do is try and come up with one, or invite others to do so, it's all just a friendly chat and a sharing of ideas, brainstorming and spitballing and almost especially disagreement are a big part of that, don't feel discouraged, feel *encouraged* that people are interested enough to engage with your idea. My personal feelings here are that, while there shouldn't be any unique reward or such, having a thread with possible outlines on the sorts of things available in a specific area to give people ideas for roleplay threads isn't a bad idea. I'm not a fan of traditional 'quests' like some places have, but as a 'suggestion'/informational tool it sounds very neat and may inspire people to more interesting and interconnected stories. After all, if people don't even know about something they're not going to reference it. If for example we mention in a desert that one of the possible RP settings is a small town under the thumb of a boss rabbit gang, then people might decide to give the place a visit or stir some trouble. We haven't told them what to do, or how to address this factoid, we've simply let them know 'this is a fact about X, feel free to let it inspire your RP'. That sounds very cool to me.
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