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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:45:31 GMT
Hmm, I was thinking that Maybe there should be something after Pure Majin, as there is Uub, so possibly a saga defeat that would make it on par with a Human a 50x trans. As Uub is Majin Buu reincarnated into a human thus it would be permenant. As for Racial abilities think like a Namekian.
Regeneration: Everyone *(Add pl here.) You gain a chance to regen yourself back to full power. Or use 3 regeneration points to avoid certain death in a topic. (As Majins can do that by having a single cell alive.)
The Absorb would be like a bio Android, you have to keep your absorption up, but you also gain the absorbee's pl by like 5% or 10% of their currnet Base Pl.
Just a few thoughts to add in.
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Post by Pipa on Dec 22, 2014 23:58:12 GMT
I did have the idea of a strait up reincarnation at current PL as a human (that keeps the techs but changes templates) between the pure and the kid form. If you were to take the pure form you would lose the option for reincarnation.
I just thought it might be to much to ask for XD, as "reincarnation" rules do exist but are capped at 20,000.
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Post by Koramund on Dec 23, 2014 17:44:03 GMT
I do not think they should be able to reincarnate, because that required the intervention of King Yemma. Also, the absorption for Majins would be highly under powered compared to Bio-Android. Bio - Majin Bio | Majin |
| .33 PL | .1 PL | Absorption | X8
| X4 | First Transformation Max Stacks |
Majin would be more then half as weak as Bio-androids, I think they should be closer, or that Majin is stronger because the Majin absorption leaves the target alive inside them. So my idea... Majins gain 50% of the target's PL and all their techniques, but they are still considered alive until the end of the thread. If the target the Majin is trying to absorb is stronger then the Majin, the Majin now counts as two people, their internal version fighting the absorbed target, and their external fighting anyone else. If the internal version is defeated, all absorbed topics from that thread escape, and the Majin loses all bonus PL and techniques gained from the absorption from that thread only.
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Post by Pipa on Dec 23, 2014 17:58:35 GMT
Kora I made it lower because unlike bio-meta I tried to design it so that it could stack with other transforms. The trade off would be the majin would start off a little lower on the totem poll than the bio-android, but capable of achieving higher trans than them throughout the rest of play.
Canon events like Yenma's intervention might not happen but as with all game design things should be made in the spirit of canon and not a literal interpretation of it (otherwise humans would be the most gimp thing ever), so I don't think that we should take reincarnate off the table just for that.
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Post by Koramund on Dec 23, 2014 18:37:11 GMT
...Alright, since it can stack with other transformations, then disregard my last statement. I agree 100% now.
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Post by President Bao on Jan 1, 2015 10:49:19 GMT
K guys, sorry about the delay, here are the incomplete notes on some of the considerations for Majins so far: A few additional comments - The idea was that Majins follow DBO's storyline, meaning much like animal-people they are a regular fixture of earth( They aren't super common, but they aren't unheard of either), descendants of the original Majin Buu. This explains why they aren't all ssj3 level monsters, this power having been diluted and dispersed over their population. They are generally innocent in nature, though their alignments cover the full spectrum of good and evil much like any Human/Zoanthrope. Mechanically they actually have the most 'transformations' of any race as their body draws deeper and deeper upon their inner strength. To relate it back to canon I did however come to the idea of making two of them 'pivotal' shifts, much like Bio-androids or Namekians requiring a trigger (absorption, seperation or unlock), mirroring in Canon how Majin Buu spit into Good and Evil Buu, and later absorbed to achieve Super Buu. In terms of racial traits the musing so far was: > Regen & Durability; Much like the (default) bio-android, they get both durability and regeneration, meaning they are excellent tanks -tying into the canon representation of buu during battle, his power was something but his defence was what really set him apart. He just stood there letting every hit land.
> Soft Body; I soon came up with the notion of Soft Body - Majins new play style niche should be as the new 'ultimate tank'. Majin buus offensive pl was between ssj2 and ssj3 levels, yet they still found them self unable to overcome his bubble-gum like body's defensive prowess. The in-game justification here being that his soft body meant he was actually x3 more powerful(defensively) than he 'appeared'(offensively).
> Absorption; A big part of Majins was their absorption, different to their Bio-android counterparts in that it was about taking on the characteristics and even personality aspects of another instead of killing and digesting their 'prey'. Therefore, Majin absorption is drafted to work as a 1/10th pl stolen (instead of the 1/3rd Bios get). The effect isn't restricted to a specific transformation or to empowering an early game form however, instead increasing the mutiplier of their current and future mutipliers by 1. This ties in with how super Buu went around absorbing various characters to inherit their traits and increase his strength.
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> Magic Skill; Fat buu was never shown absorbing like super buu does, therefore the idea emerged that maybe, for those uninterested in glomping others, Majins could chose to have a magic skill (like fat buus Candy beam), using the same mechanics as the Demon Skill. At x3 it perfectly counters their soft body characteristic, allowing them to strike at 'full power' for a single blow, such as finishing off an opponent by turning them into a giant cookie Though other possibly magic skills could be devised too (I remember seeing a fan comic where a little girl Majin could turn people into dolls, I thought that was a really clever variation on the Candy Beam idea) ---- So, thoughts so far?
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Post by Wyntre Cold on Jan 1, 2015 12:06:19 GMT
Can we get the updated species document, Bao?
I agree with this, too.
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Post by Koramund on Jan 1, 2015 14:30:14 GMT
...I want to become this species now XD, this would have been my pick.
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Post by Zexama on Jan 1, 2015 20:33:17 GMT
I agree with most of this. Only a few things that I'm unsure of, first, how will absorption work?unlike bios, who literally eat them, we just store them in our body for safe keeping, forever. So it is obvious that we should get the 1/10 instead of the 1/3 but I'm sure a lot of people would get really pissed if anyone did what Buu was doing, just cut off his limb, distract them, kill them. Anyway, I'm guessing this will be one per thread?
Ok, I like the idea of super body a lot since well as you said, Buu just stood there. But the regeneration is something Im dissipointed by, so you can only use it, once every 60,000 Pl I don't know if I'm sounding greedy or something but can we maybe reduce it down to 40,000 Pl?
Now with the transformations I see no real problems yet, but it all seems pretty fair, might just take awhile to get a x7 trans, but train train train and gain gain gain. Ok I think I'm done here for now. :3
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Post by Koramund on Jan 1, 2015 20:42:20 GMT
Speaking of transformations, Should we have a limit to absorption? I don't think we should because the Majin needs to work for each and every absorption, but it also theoretically means they could reach x80 transformation (83 defensive, offense 77) if they ate a large 40 people, but end game they might be able to. But, that way it keeps with the theme of a powerful daemon that gets stronger and stronger as it eats more people.
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Post by Zexama on Jan 1, 2015 21:04:27 GMT
Yeah, and deader and deader when everyone tries to kill it XD
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Post by Pieter Wolfbane on Jan 1, 2015 22:51:44 GMT
As Bao pointed out, the profile's a work in progress. It was made many months before, actually. The limited regeneration set up you're seeing here isn't actually there.
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Post by Koramund on Jan 2, 2015 16:10:00 GMT
Actually, I remember something about the Super Form I would like to add in for Evil beings
Insanity / Evil Incarnation - Majins may not be the strongest, but by Kami they are insane! From the Super Form or above, a Majin may use one of their Regeneration moves to make a move PL 133%, but must charge it for a turn, (So it must be 266%, but can go up to 399% or above if we have higher), where they destroy themselves and then regenerate. This costs a single regeneration.
This was inspired by Revenge Death Bomber by Super Buu (Note: I just love how smart Super buu becomes, and just how crazy he looks here)
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Post by Zexama on Jan 9, 2015 4:11:10 GMT
As someone mentioned before, we should have a transformation after 40x, like a 50x unlocked at like 500k or 550k so they stand a chance against the humans, legend. This could be the same as kid Buu or something like that.
Another racial ability that all that have seen the dbz series know that Buu was extremely flexible, for example, when he escaped the hbc he screamed and open the portal, and then became thin and flew through the portal, so it could be called like malleable body or something.
Just trying to wrap this up so we can get it on the road :3
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Post by Rain on Jan 9, 2015 4:21:03 GMT
So I was thinking on the ability to instantly copy moves and what if it simply was unique to Kid buu but a weaker version is inherent to all Majins until they reach their pure form where they would be able to fully utilize it. I say this because after a certain PL I personally believe it comes down to will to fight and not purely technique but I could be wrong. But by a weaker version I mean currently you have to gain 6,000 Pl to gain a new technique but instead they can gain a technique they've witness or been inflicted upon for every 3000 Pl? Thus giving everyone a taste of the true majins until strong enough for a full taste but at those levels it wouldn't be a major game changer.
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