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Post by Vennel on May 20, 2015 21:24:45 GMT
well just check for the starting planet then? Its a bit more work, yes. But unless their starting planet was Vegeta/other planet with a higher gravity, then one could just say their body atrophied over time and they lost their resistance to higher gravity.
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Post by Hyoza on May 20, 2015 21:25:48 GMT
People can edit that info if they want to. We can't stop them doing that. It opens a gateway for cheating that we can't effectively police.
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Post by Vennel on May 20, 2015 21:29:39 GMT
fair enough. then one could maybe say that anyone threading on vegeta gets a 10x bonus, and is considered training under that gravity. anyone of a race that comes from a planet with higher gravity can withstand it just fine, since their bone density and muscle mass would be designed to withstand gravity of that level?
Theres work arounds that can make this fairly simple.
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Post by Kahr Diak on May 23, 2015 8:42:19 GMT
If we're going for this level of simulation we'd also have to consider things like Planet Vegeta having a full moon only every hundred years, where the Makyo Star is in relation to it, etc etc. Otherwise we're just looking at the positives of planets compared to Earth rather than the balanced view.
I think it is more unnecessary bookkeeping myself.
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Post by Hyoza on May 23, 2015 12:45:35 GMT
This would also bring in stuff like celestial events/makyo star/full moons not being visible on namek, as it has three suns and it's never dark there.
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Post by Mayze on May 23, 2015 14:27:39 GMT
This would also bring in stuff like celestial events/makyo star/full moons not being visible on namek, as it has three suns and it's never dark there. Being dark wouldn't matter for the moon. I've seen the moon plenty of times when it's light out.
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Post by Kahr Diak on May 23, 2015 14:31:42 GMT
Not at midday, though, and that's essentially what it is on namek constantly.
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Post by Mayze on May 23, 2015 14:41:01 GMT
Not at midday, though, and that's essentially what it is on namek constantly. It isn't always midday on Namek. The suns do go down. It's just that at least 1 is up at all times. I would assume it gets a little darker when just one sun is out.
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Post by Mayze on May 23, 2015 15:08:48 GMT
Also, since we're on the topic. Do the transformation's that require a star. or moon even work on Namek?
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Post by Gleciar Avierno on May 23, 2015 15:17:06 GMT
Not sure... Though, probably not, maybe if you had a technique to make the the event needed for transformations. Like the moon ball, or something similar
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Post by Hyoza on May 23, 2015 15:50:16 GMT
Rather than having circular arguments about the physics of transformation-inducing events and how they interact with a planet of perpetual daylight and so on, we could just save everyone a lot of trouble and not bother.
Adding separate environmental conditions to every planet is just extra stuff for the mods to keep track of, and another hurdle in the labyrinthine balancing of the site's mechanics. It adds very little and could potentially cause a disproportionate number of headaches.
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Post by Bing Gan on May 23, 2015 20:51:50 GMT
So what I'm getting from this thread is that people don't like planet diversity! If all the planets are the same anyways what's the point of threading anywhere other than earth?
Angry joking aside, I'll have to agree that putting in a lot of environmental stuff would be way too much work, and the gravity changing on other planets probably wouldn't be consequential enough anyways.
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Post by Hyoza on May 24, 2015 11:56:19 GMT
It's not that we don't like diversity, Bing. It's that these changes will have only a very small impact for most players, while creating a lot more work for the mods.
The differences in the planets are numerous - and players are expected to have the imagination and lore knowledge to put that across in their posts. IC differences need not ALWAYS translate into OOC mechanics.
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Post by Kayle on Jun 5, 2015 15:31:18 GMT
The whole "getting used to it" idea is ture, but then I come across the same problem with the grav chamber. Say someone can only afford the x80 one. THey get to x80 and stay there forever. Would they not get used to that and get less gains for it by that logic too? Or say they get to max 150. Would they not after a while get used to the x150 and get less gains?
What would be interesting as a compromise taking into account gravity would be to allow the gravity jumps. Such as Vegeta and Zoon are both stated to be x10 earths starting gravity. So, maybe people who start, AND RP there for a while, get to skip the x10 step for the grav chambers and start at x20?
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