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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 1:46:10 GMT
It seems sort of difficult to apply for a master position. With multiple open positions for masters, there's no real way to learn the special techniques such as Special Beam Cannon, Hellzone Grenade, and Death Ball. I believe that there should be a standard 10k NPC to fill in open positions so that characters can solo RP their training and learning the techniques. Then the "master" may hand over or the player may take over the position however they see fit. It would make sense from an RP standpoint as the character who claims the position wouldn't learn special techniques out of nowhere while disciples must learn it from the master. (This would only apply to positions not specifically handed down by other player characters)
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Post by Zuni on Jan 31, 2016 7:49:59 GMT
Why do you believe it is difficult to apply for the Master position? The PL requirements can be obtained inside a week fairly trivially.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 13:40:23 GMT
It's not difficult from a PL standpoint but from an RP standpoint. It's kinda difficult to explain how your character learned the special techniques or skills of the clan to teach to others.
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Post by Zuni on Jan 31, 2016 14:37:55 GMT
Sorry, I just don't see it.
Personally, I think that 'canon' positions already get a lot of extra boosts compared to custom ones, and we don't need to make it even easier for characters to obtain special techniques.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 15:45:28 GMT
I don't think I'm explaining this clearly. I think there should be a placeholder figure between Player masters. I don't mean for EVERY disciple to train under this NPC master, but more for the future holder of the position to serve as an apprentice of this master. For example, the position of Lord of Arcose is open now. There is no one to teach the Death Ball technique right now, so unless someone dies and trains under Wyntre and is revived, the move is currently lost in a sort of limbo stage waiting for someone to come up with some reason to know the technique. With my idea anyone who plans to CLAIM the said master position may train under this NPC who teaches them the techniques and then passes on the position to the player one way or another.
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Post by Zuni on Jan 31, 2016 16:25:25 GMT
I think I hate it even more now you've explained it.
Wyntre is dead. There is no current Ruler of Arcose, and there definitely shouldn't be an NPC one. A PC SHOULD step up to get that position, and having some sort of artificial 'currently fills the position but isn't really going to do anything with it' NPC would be awful.
You can come up with all sorts of reasons to learn Death Ball once you've taken the position. Maybe there's a trainer who has some insight into it but can't use it themselves because they aren't strong enough. Maybe the ancient secrets of blowing up planetary cores are recorded in databanks you only get access to after claiming the throne. Maybe you learn it in a flash of inspiration one night as you stare out at the desolation of your own planet.
You don't need to learn it from Wyntre, you just need to claim the position and then have some sort of justification - of which there are many. The above three are just ones I literally thought of inside five minutes. You definitely don't need some placeholder NPC to exist and complicate things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 20:50:35 GMT
Ok I understand your point. I was under the impression that the ONLY way to learn those techniques were through a master. But I do believe that there should be a sort of standard for how it can be justified. For example, with the justification of the trainer with insight suggests that anyone could learn the technique. The explanation about the inspiration by watching your planet's destruction even further implies this. The second explanation doesn't have any holes however, so it would be a logical explanation however. It also needs to be made clear that when claiming a position that the techniques may be claimed as well with justification, because I'm sure others have been under the same impression as I was.
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