Post by Queen Habana on Sept 23, 2015 22:45:33 GMT
So Pieters recent post in the Demon Skill Debate(tm) brought up an interesting idea, the idea of Demon Hybrids recieveing a lesser version of the Demon Skill trait rather than a bonus technique, when mathing it out, assuming Demons get an new tier of transformation and that got me thinking.
The current state of Hybrids is pretty cool, we need some 'hybrid alien' traits for the current races but overall its not a bad situation. But that doesnt necessarily mean it cant be better.
So as it stands Hybrids are 'technically' supposed to choose a Dominant side, and through this they model the visual effects of there transformations, a Saiyan Dominant would have all osrts of cool SSJ based transformations(probably with a bit of flair from there other half thrown in but with an emphasis on the dominant side)
But thats about it for the effects of 'dominance' and I feel like there should/could be a bit -more- to it than that.
So my proposition is that there should be 'dominant' versions of the racial traits, and 'lesser' versions, when you choose your dominant side you receive that trait, and thus your other half is made 'lesser' for right now I'll just talk about Saiyans, Demons, and Humans as we lack a scope of actual alien traits at the moment. And as a side note perhaps this could also be used with Bio-Androids either allowing them to effectively choose all 3 'dominant' traits OR having choose some amount of dominant traits vs lesser traits (perhaps expanding them to 4 traits, 2 dominant, 2 lesser.) though this also assumes that Bio-Androids receive 'hybrid' style traits and not simply full power versions(I believe they do?) if they always receive the 'full' version then of course ignore this and I wont bother working out the logistics for what Arcosian/Namekain/ext dominant and lesser traits would be.
Part-Saiyans:
Dominant:
Lesser Zenkai '50%': your saiyan blood is so strong that your power swells with every battle that brings you to the brink, while it is not neearly as potent as your Saiyan parent's you still gain quit ea bit of power, this power comes with a weakness however.
Tail Weakness: When your tail is grasped your body becomes paralyzed with intense pain, this can be trained away with time and effort once you reach the requisite power but until then you are in great danger.
Power of Legends: As a Saiyan dominant hybrid you are in the unique position to gain the legendary power of the Super Oozaru or the Sudden burst of power that is the False Super Saiyan/Saiyan Soul state. You must meet the normal prerequisites for these forms and additionally Hybrids who make the choice of Hidden Potential over Oozaru cannot gain the Super Oozaru form.
Lesser:
Minor Zenkai '25%': Your saiyan blood might lay somewhat dormant but in spite of this being pushed in battle still drives your power to grow to greater heights, because your saiyan blood is so thin however there is a small benefit when compared to those with stronger saiyan blood.
Lesser Tail Weakness: With the thinning of your saiyan genetics comes a less dangerous version of the Tail Weakness, grasping of the tail is still a great danger to you but it requires little from you to learn how to train away the danger. Lesser Tail Weakness has no PL restriction on when a technique can be spent to remove it.
Note on Zenkai %'s : I don't have a clue what the actual math on Zenkai's are, my assumption is that Hybrid Zenkai is 'half' as effective as Pure Zenkai so I list it as '50%' thus a lesser version would be 25%, a quarter as effective as a Pure Zenkai.
Part-Humans:
Dominant:
Skilled AND Savvyl: Humans are well known for being a crafy lot, and you being of strong human blood are no exception, you gain your techniques at a rate of 1 per every 5000 PL and an extra 300 starting Zenie along with a passive 5% increase in Zenie gains.
Lesser:
Creative: With your human blood thinned everything that your strong blooded compatriots have is simply just... lesser in you, you gain techniques at every 5500 PL and start with an extra 250 Zenie over others but lack the passive increase in Zenie that comes with the savvy of being a human.
Part Demons:-
Dominant:
Demonic Push, Demonic Hybrids whos demonic blood is strong receive a technique that draws upon the demonic power within, providing them with a +x2 to there current power when utilizing this attack.
Lesser:
Devilish Creativity: While the blood of your demonic parent is less potent within you and does not allow you a technique quite as powerful as your parent you do have the ability to create an additional technique of any sort be it offensive or supportive.
The current state of Hybrids is pretty cool, we need some 'hybrid alien' traits for the current races but overall its not a bad situation. But that doesnt necessarily mean it cant be better.
So as it stands Hybrids are 'technically' supposed to choose a Dominant side, and through this they model the visual effects of there transformations, a Saiyan Dominant would have all osrts of cool SSJ based transformations(probably with a bit of flair from there other half thrown in but with an emphasis on the dominant side)
But thats about it for the effects of 'dominance' and I feel like there should/could be a bit -more- to it than that.
So my proposition is that there should be 'dominant' versions of the racial traits, and 'lesser' versions, when you choose your dominant side you receive that trait, and thus your other half is made 'lesser' for right now I'll just talk about Saiyans, Demons, and Humans as we lack a scope of actual alien traits at the moment. And as a side note perhaps this could also be used with Bio-Androids either allowing them to effectively choose all 3 'dominant' traits OR having choose some amount of dominant traits vs lesser traits (perhaps expanding them to 4 traits, 2 dominant, 2 lesser.) though this also assumes that Bio-Androids receive 'hybrid' style traits and not simply full power versions(I believe they do?) if they always receive the 'full' version then of course ignore this and I wont bother working out the logistics for what Arcosian/Namekain/ext dominant and lesser traits would be.
Part-Saiyans:
Dominant:
Lesser Zenkai '50%': your saiyan blood is so strong that your power swells with every battle that brings you to the brink, while it is not neearly as potent as your Saiyan parent's you still gain quit ea bit of power, this power comes with a weakness however.
Tail Weakness: When your tail is grasped your body becomes paralyzed with intense pain, this can be trained away with time and effort once you reach the requisite power but until then you are in great danger.
Power of Legends: As a Saiyan dominant hybrid you are in the unique position to gain the legendary power of the Super Oozaru or the Sudden burst of power that is the False Super Saiyan/Saiyan Soul state. You must meet the normal prerequisites for these forms and additionally Hybrids who make the choice of Hidden Potential over Oozaru cannot gain the Super Oozaru form.
Lesser:
Minor Zenkai '25%': Your saiyan blood might lay somewhat dormant but in spite of this being pushed in battle still drives your power to grow to greater heights, because your saiyan blood is so thin however there is a small benefit when compared to those with stronger saiyan blood.
Lesser Tail Weakness: With the thinning of your saiyan genetics comes a less dangerous version of the Tail Weakness, grasping of the tail is still a great danger to you but it requires little from you to learn how to train away the danger. Lesser Tail Weakness has no PL restriction on when a technique can be spent to remove it.
Note on Zenkai %'s : I don't have a clue what the actual math on Zenkai's are, my assumption is that Hybrid Zenkai is 'half' as effective as Pure Zenkai so I list it as '50%' thus a lesser version would be 25%, a quarter as effective as a Pure Zenkai.
Part-Humans:
Dominant:
Skilled AND Savvyl: Humans are well known for being a crafy lot, and you being of strong human blood are no exception, you gain your techniques at a rate of 1 per every 5000 PL and an extra 300 starting Zenie along with a passive 5% increase in Zenie gains.
Lesser:
Creative: With your human blood thinned everything that your strong blooded compatriots have is simply just... lesser in you, you gain techniques at every 5500 PL and start with an extra 250 Zenie over others but lack the passive increase in Zenie that comes with the savvy of being a human.
Part Demons:-
Dominant:
Demonic Push, Demonic Hybrids whos demonic blood is strong receive a technique that draws upon the demonic power within, providing them with a +x2 to there current power when utilizing this attack.
Lesser:
Devilish Creativity: While the blood of your demonic parent is less potent within you and does not allow you a technique quite as powerful as your parent you do have the ability to create an additional technique of any sort be it offensive or supportive.