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Post by Reikiko on Feb 13, 2015 21:57:36 GMT
Okay, so I'm going to put this down here... Because at this point I'm getting mildy annoyed.
1: To start with, Bao or another admin. Can you please tell us what literature remains of the DBZ period?
2: AND THIS IS SUPPER IMPORTANT:
What is considered common knowledge?
For example, the dragon balls their existence and purpose.
The reason I'm putting this, is because honestly... I'm getting annoyed at all this knowledge some people possess that they shouldn't.
To give 2 glaring examples:
Daiki seems to know about the existence of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and even recognize the door, when according to what the manga/wikia and some people are telling me there is simply no clue to describe that room as being specifically that.
Second, Daiki seems to have a book that shows lore/the history of Goku/the Z fighters. I'm not certain on the details of that book but...
As a roleplayer I personally hate the use of ooc knowledge, especially if not discussed beforehand.
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Post by Daiki Iranos on Feb 13, 2015 22:06:15 GMT
Well there is no rule saying ''There is no book about Dragon Ball main History'' and i didn't knew about the room, i read it name beside to doors, i didn't recognize the freaking door, stop saying absolutely random things
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Post by Reikiko on Feb 13, 2015 22:10:32 GMT
I quote your words: 'I read it(it's) name beside to (the) doors (door).
There's NOTHING that states that there is such a thing as a name next to the door. So unless admins confirm that there is indeed such a 'cue' you were in essence using ooc knowledge.
Now be a nice boy and wait for an admin to respond, because last time I checked neither of us are admins or staff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 22:11:05 GMT
As of now that would be of old tales mostly forgotten. I mean I have it that the Turtle School has mentions of its founder in really old scrolls and books within its library that the grans master can access. It has that he was alive about the time of Hercule so she assumes that they where allies etc etc. I mean Hercule and his life is celebrated on Earth as a grand hero and most of the Z Warriors minus those who wrote and did great things after Z ended faded away as it where. As for Daiki's book do what Nin did in the thread I have with him. Have it where the person just dismisses it as a book of tales or of legends.
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Post by Vi-Poi on Feb 14, 2015 0:18:42 GMT
My opinion probably isn't worth much, but as Ninjin does -- I see it like much of that special information is fragmented by time. As for specific special information, such as the Dragon Balls, Kami's Lookout, etc., I think it's okay for your character to know -something- of them, if there is a good Roleplay reason to back that up. For instance, Vi-Poi knows of the Dragon Ball's existence, and the Three Wishes, because of his background. He was created from an archaic Red Ribbon mainframe that existed at the time of Commander Red, who had an obsessive desire to obtain the Dragon Balls. So all sorts of information was in his old databanks. I balance this knowledge by having much of it be corrupted over time, and files on specific persons/events corrupted or lost during his creation as an Android. Further, the seeking of the Dragon Balls is the major driving force behind everything he does, because of his desire to reunite with Poi, and for other Background reasons that Vi-Poi does not yet know about.
So I think that as long as you're responsible with special information, and as long as your character isn't an omniscient guru of all lore, I think you're probably okay.
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Post by Dilva on Feb 14, 2015 0:25:39 GMT
From New Members Frequently Asked Questions.
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Post by President Bao on Feb 14, 2015 2:07:11 GMT
wodsouls.freeforums.net/thread/683/universe-knowledge-canon-history-general^ that is/was a discussion thread on the matter also. I'm all for continuing the discussion and continuing to refine. and yes, always a good idea to check out stuff such as the rules and information section @ Daiki: There are much better ways of achieving IC knowledge than just 'he owns the dragonball manga', or 'the HBTC has a big sign on it now' . It's all about elegance, if it comes off as contrived and unjustified it tends to rub people the wrong way. Better question is... why does your character even need this knowledge other than to possibly meta-game advantages for yourself (which is frowned upon), or for the 'I know about goku' factor (also frowned upon). I can't really think of a good reason why someone would have a 'detailed history of a specific period from 2000 years ago' book, given the Z fighters exploits were widely unknown by the world.
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Post by Daiki Iranos on Feb 14, 2015 2:27:13 GMT
Ow JESUS you're right, how could someone that lived 2000 years earlier could have any impact, how stupid can i get... JESUS its really impossible to be remembered 2000 years after we lived... no really did i really have to say why there may be legend book about Goku? Meh, you're the admin, i can't argue so i'll let this whole character developpement down in futur thread.
And okay, for the Hyper bolic thing, i just make my character notice it so the Sanctuary visit wouldn't be total blank... then my bad, won't happen again, and i never planned on using it anyway, i don't think that could be usefull to make my character a 1 years training, i would be the same just making a lot of thread but it would be i one... and i don't planned making a 365,000 word traininng Thread xD
Anyway, all this was just to say, no, i wasn't planning on getting any meta-game advantage
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Post by President Bao on Feb 14, 2015 5:31:23 GMT
Careful Dai, I don't want to have to give you a warning, it is expected that all members express them self in a civil and respectful manner, it is part of the agreement you make by playing here. I didn't come in here with thinly veiled insults towards you, the same curtsey is expected to be given to myself and others.
To dispel this notion quickly - There is is no Goku bible or Gokuanity religion, if the community votes there should be then that could change but it sounds like people so far have been very happy that such a thing does not exist. Goku as a figure is lost to time completely, he was a hermit who stayed firmly away from the public eye, meaning what remains of his legend has simply bleed into the wider legend of the Super Saiyan or the legend of Earth's Hero(Satan). Refer to the link(s) above for more info. (also don't shoot the messager Dai, I simply enforce what the community decides, so instead of giving me attitude feel free to try getting it changed If you don't like it, we're a democracy after all.)
As for the time chamber - It does not have any label on it in canon and so is assumed to not have one in this time, so you'll need to find a more tactful way of noticing it, I would suggest simply alluding to it would be best of all, we're all clever people, we know the source material so be subtle and clever when making nods to it, (rather than a freight train approach). eg. "He noticed a door, unremarkable in every way and no different to the various ones he had passed before... and yet something about it felt strange, otherworldly, it was as if his perception slowed just looking at it. After what to the outside world couldn't have been more than a split second his focus was drawn back to his path, and the moment was broken. He continued to walk without appearing to skip a beat'
(also, hyperbolic time chamber bonus is not 365, sorry. XD)
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