Post by President Bao on Jun 15, 2015 13:08:39 GMT
Relevant comment from a conversation I once had, will elaborate later but it contains info about an idea I wanted to propose when the time came up about the Makyo star and demon realm:
(I was saying my proposal was going to be for Zoon, Ankokusei, and the other babidi associated planets to be part of the demon realm, it was the topic of the message in question. I'd snip better but just want to paste this quickly so sorry if any doesn't make sense/is only half conversation)
Makyo (translated it means 'the realm of demons'... - Makyo -> Makaio --> Makaioshin).
The idea for the makyo star being a portal rather than the actual planet itself is based on these observations:
> The name meaning realm of demons
> the empowering effect it was stated/shown to have not just Garlic jr but many 'evil spirits' [such as when he recounted how he escaped the dead zone]
> Garlic was said to have come to Earth with the intention of becoming it's god(kami), and lead his demon army against it when he was denied
> Garlic and Garlic jr are known to have an ability which allows them to tear a hole in the fabric of space, Garlic Jr's lead to the Dead Zone but his father was never elaborated on.
> If you look at makyo you can see is has that 'blue haze' around it. vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/1/14/MakyoStar.png
> It was stated that it travels through space instead of following an orbit like normal planet, drawing further and closer to certain worlds as it does so.
Basically, the demon realm is kinda like the other world/shinjins realm in structure(a bunch of planets in a cosmos), an elaboration based on it being stated to be the inverse realm to it, and the theories about the planet dabura fought gohan on being part of the demon realm, as well as babidis other henchmen.
the planet Makyo is one of the planets within the demon realm, and the blue we see around it like a haze is actually the 'background space' of the demon realm(in the same way Other World is pink,the background space in the demon realm also has a tinge), meaning essentially we are looking through the portal Garlic tore between the demon and mortal realms.
> demons therefore get stronger not because of the planets presence, but rather because of exposure to the demon realm itself through this hole
> This also ties in with how it doesn't seem to follow any orbits - it's cause the planet itself is still sitting in a different realm.
(meaning when gohan blasted the makyo star he didn't blow up a whole planet, he destabilised the portal. Many years later it's grown more stable again, helping to justify player made demons being present in the mortal realm and it's return as part of our environmental triggers).
When we do add the demon realm, I wanted it to have a little substance. We're definitely going into fanon with my idea of adding Zoon to the demon realm (Bibidi and Babidi were stated to have used the demon realm to hide from the kaioshin, but Zoon was never actually directly stated to be there), but it was based kinda on the idea that pui-puis race are a demon realm equivalent to appules race, and that the planets you can see in the background[you also see them when they fight yakon] are the other demon realm planets. (Also kinda an excuse to keep their attire in line with babidi's gear, and explain daburas knowledge of these fighters when babidi deferred to him ).
(I was saying my proposal was going to be for Zoon, Ankokusei, and the other babidi associated planets to be part of the demon realm, it was the topic of the message in question. I'd snip better but just want to paste this quickly so sorry if any doesn't make sense/is only half conversation)
Makyo (translated it means 'the realm of demons'... - Makyo -> Makaio --> Makaioshin).
The idea for the makyo star being a portal rather than the actual planet itself is based on these observations:
> The name meaning realm of demons
> the empowering effect it was stated/shown to have not just Garlic jr but many 'evil spirits' [such as when he recounted how he escaped the dead zone]
> Garlic was said to have come to Earth with the intention of becoming it's god(kami), and lead his demon army against it when he was denied
> Garlic and Garlic jr are known to have an ability which allows them to tear a hole in the fabric of space, Garlic Jr's lead to the Dead Zone but his father was never elaborated on.
> If you look at makyo you can see is has that 'blue haze' around it. vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/1/14/MakyoStar.png
> It was stated that it travels through space instead of following an orbit like normal planet, drawing further and closer to certain worlds as it does so.
Basically, the demon realm is kinda like the other world/shinjins realm in structure(a bunch of planets in a cosmos), an elaboration based on it being stated to be the inverse realm to it, and the theories about the planet dabura fought gohan on being part of the demon realm, as well as babidis other henchmen.
the planet Makyo is one of the planets within the demon realm, and the blue we see around it like a haze is actually the 'background space' of the demon realm(in the same way Other World is pink,the background space in the demon realm also has a tinge), meaning essentially we are looking through the portal Garlic tore between the demon and mortal realms.
> demons therefore get stronger not because of the planets presence, but rather because of exposure to the demon realm itself through this hole
> This also ties in with how it doesn't seem to follow any orbits - it's cause the planet itself is still sitting in a different realm.
(meaning when gohan blasted the makyo star he didn't blow up a whole planet, he destabilised the portal. Many years later it's grown more stable again, helping to justify player made demons being present in the mortal realm and it's return as part of our environmental triggers).
When we do add the demon realm, I wanted it to have a little substance. We're definitely going into fanon with my idea of adding Zoon to the demon realm (Bibidi and Babidi were stated to have used the demon realm to hide from the kaioshin, but Zoon was never actually directly stated to be there), but it was based kinda on the idea that pui-puis race are a demon realm equivalent to appules race, and that the planets you can see in the background[you also see them when they fight yakon] are the other demon realm planets. (Also kinda an excuse to keep their attire in line with babidi's gear, and explain daburas knowledge of these fighters when babidi deferred to him ).