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Post by Yurei on Jun 9, 2017 13:11:10 GMT
Now, honestly I don't understand why we have space knutts prison at all.. since no one ever uses it unless they what to solo in the prison or actually thread with people there. But I really think the system should work like this!
power levels 0- 50k
will need to acquire shokki or whatever type of currency to unlock their freedom.
1000 currency.
You get the base of it, the higher pl, the higher of a threat you are, heck perhaps even what Abo is doing. 800 pl and causing chaos. Should be placed on a much higher threat level. Now obviously the higher leve of a threat a person is, should be given a much stricker word count to achieve or perhaps earning enough currency.
Now perhaps the prison should also work in favor of the good guys. Maybe if they so wished, they could also work in the prison as guards and perhaps earn more Zeni or pl through it, same as the inmates. Maybe we should establish a better option than to send people to AL.
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Post by Plato on Jun 9, 2017 15:27:14 GMT
I think a prison would be cool but i think it should have no currency about it. Just have to start a de (Which would be either a solo escape attempt) or a riot then if someone does not go and stop you, you escape. That make it fresh compared to the afterlife. They should not operate or feel the same.
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Post by BACON on Jun 9, 2017 18:30:56 GMT
That'd ultimately be somewhat pointless, because as soon as the prisoner got in, they'd likely try to escape. What'd be better is to turn it into a large game of cops n robbers; perhaps the prisoners get a PL debuff, to make it easier for the guards, and deter instantly leaving?
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Post by Jizo on Jun 9, 2017 23:12:16 GMT
I think whatever the prison system is, it should have three things
1. Being independent of then afterlife system. because Hell also has a prison, so that would be counter-intuitive 2. Should have rules set by the faction that owns the prison 3. Should require a DE to get out (though instead of dying you just get locked away again? not sure), maybe some currency value too. Like 2,500 Zeni the first time and 5,000 Zeni the second time.
Though, if you fail your first DE escape attempt you don't need to pay the zeni value again until you've escaped. Though, getting captured again means you'll need to pay again. Maybe the zeni cost is based on your prison too? So if you escape Cauliflo Mines on Shikk you need to pay 2,500 but if you then escape from Knutts you only need to pay 2,500. But if you get captured and have to escape either prison again you'll need to pay the 5,000?
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Post by Yurei on Jun 9, 2017 23:40:08 GMT
What about, first time it's 3k Zeni price and 3k word count to leave?
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Post by Jizo on Jun 11, 2017 1:43:52 GMT
What about, first time it's 3k Zeni price and 3k word count to leave? I don't think a WC should be required. I like paying for it and then either a DE or some other way out. Maybe an extra cost to skip the escape DE? If they get themselves captured and thrown in jail, they should have to work to get out. Either the Zeni Price and a DE, or Skip the DE with extra Zeni. If we want to make it even harder maybe the escapees suffer the affects of light or medium weights during their DE thread (without the benefits) whereas the guards do not 😈
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Post by Jurojin on Jun 11, 2017 3:05:14 GMT
I say 50% PL decrease (equal to medium weights) without gains increase.
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Post by Jizo on Jun 11, 2017 3:13:20 GMT
That seems fair. But we also need to make it more than just and IC action to chuck someone in a prison? Like maybe it needs to be intent on a KO in a DE. Like, "intent to KO and imprison in *insert prison*"
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Post by Jurojin on Jun 11, 2017 3:25:52 GMT
Makes sense, but maybe follows same rules as absorption (anyone KO'd in a DE is free to be imprisoned)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 23:15:17 GMT
But, they would have to have a reason obviously, stated somewhere. Can't just go around chucking ko'ed people into a prison set up like that for no reason.
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Post by Jizo on Jun 12, 2017 3:39:11 GMT
But, they would have to have a reason obviously, stated somewhere. Can't just go around chucking ko'ed people into a prison set up like that for no reason. Good point. But right now I think the only faction that has a prison is the SSE and since they're at war they'd be all good imo to throw KO'd enemies in jail, or traitors, or whatnot.
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Post by Jurojin on Jun 12, 2017 4:43:00 GMT
I think that we should do one of two things: 1) Remove Space Knutts as a board, and just require each prison has an obvious presence-perhaps by an OOC thread 2) Add prisons to each area controlled by a major power Personally, I'd prefer the former, as it allows for more freedom with the prisons, but either one would work.
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Post by Jizo on Jun 12, 2017 5:26:05 GMT
I think that we should do one of two things: 1) Remove Space Knutts as a board, and just require each prison has an obvious presence-perhaps by an OOC thread 2) Add prisons to each area controlled by a major power Personally, I'd prefer the former, as it allows for more freedom with the prisons, but either one would work. Well the SSE already have a prison on Shikk and on Knutts, so I think factions should be able to attain multiple prisons. Maybe it costs something to establish a prison, or maybe they need to do a DE to establish a prison in the same way as you do for a board (but need a faction)?
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Post by BACON on Jun 12, 2017 6:22:33 GMT
How about establishing that prisons cost 10K zenni, but all the major powers (AE, SSE, etc) get free prisons. As much as that amount may seem like a lot, it wouldn't be very hard to get over a period of time in which you RP often, and you could attain it even faster if your faction had enough members willing to donate.
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Post by Helix Crust on Jun 12, 2017 17:33:24 GMT
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